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Bjarni wrote:

SirkoZ wrote:I see.
I must mention here, that I tried to play some of the OpenTTD COOP save games with around 1000 diesel/steam trains running at any time and it ran fine. How many vehicles does my patch "steal" from the array?

one for each steam/diesel cloud anywhere on the map.

SirkoZ wrote:Is there any way to make the patch client-side?

Yes, but you will not like this. You will need to split eyecandy effects from vehicles, that affects the game. Overloading the eyecandy one will not affect the game while overloading the vehicle will.

Say we got close to the limit of vehicles in a game. One player (A) got really intense smoke from his steam trains, so he takes up say 20 vehicle space for each locomotive. Another guy (B) only use 8 vehicle slots for each steam locomotive. Eventually B will build a new vehicle and the game will allow him to do so because it can find free vehicle slots. The same goes for the server, so they both build the new vehicle. A already used all his slots for steam and the game will fail to build the vehicle and now we got a game, where all clients will not have the same amount of vehicles in the game -> desync.

I really can't see any easy way out of this one and splitting the vehicles and the "eyecandy vehicles" is a massive job.

Bjarni wrote:

SirkoZ wrote:Is there any way to make the patch client-side?

Yes, but you will not like this. You will need to split eyecandy effects from vehicles, that affects the game. Overloading the eyecandy one will not affect the game while overloading the vehicle will.

Say we got close to the limit of vehicles in a game. One player (A) got really intense smoke from his steam trains, so he takes up say 20 vehicle space for each locomotive. Another guy (B) only use 8 vehicle slots for each steam locomotive. Eventually B will build a new vehicle and the game will allow him to do so because it can find free vehicle slots. The same goes for the server, so they both build the new vehicle. A already used all his slots for steam and the game will fail to build the vehicle

SirkoZ wrote:was any such task as decoupling of eyecandy vehicles (e.g. shadows,...)

DaleStan wrote:

SirkoZ wrote:was any such task as decoupling of eyecandy vehicles (e.g. shadows,...)

Shadows aren't eyecandy. They're honest vehicles, and under normal circumstances are the mail compartment.

peter1138 wrote:To clarify:

There are actually 1024 reserved vehicle IDs just for special effects. These start from 0, and hence all real vehicles (including aircraft shadows) have IDs greater than 1024.

If there are too many special effects, then no more are created (until some are deleted). So they can't interfere with real vehicles, but could conceivably cause desyncs if clients have different settings, as some of the special effect handlers involve randomness.

White Rabbit wrote:Why not have even more options for longer steam trails and more frequent puffs, like TTDP? While there's a difference between steam/smoke generated by this patch and default OTTD, I still think there's not nearly enough of it, and the patch doesn't compare with the Patch, if you know what I mean...

peter1138 wrote:To clarify:

There are actually 1024 reserved vehicle IDs just for special effects. These start from 0, and hence all real vehicles (including aircraft shadows) have IDs greater than 1024.

If there are too many special effects, then no more are created (until some are deleted). So they can't interfere with real vehicles, but could conceivably cause desyncs if clients have different settings, as some of the special effect handlers involve randomness.

peter1138 wrote:The 1024 reserved special vehicles no longer applies. That was removed quite some time ago.

SirkoZ wrote:Bilbo - I can have those rewritten in a Jamie, but that's besides the point. The point is apparently my vehicle stuff just don't fit into Peter1138's little agenda.