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Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 26 Jul 2010 00:31
by NekoMaster
New GRF here

Fixed up the Orion V specs
Added Paper and Mail cargos to F9000
Split the Orion V into Bus and Coachs (because they've been used in both areas (eg. GO Transits Coachs or TTC's City Buses)

Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 26 Jul 2010 00:46
by colossal404
I know NA import a lot of vehicles from Europe, but not too many. I think the rates between the NA and Euro trucks are 90%-10%, so there is a lot more american trucks than european. And the set need almost only NA trucks to keep the feeling of the set.
But you manage this set, I wont't interfere too much, only some drawings if I found them.

Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 26 Jul 2010 01:06
by NekoMaster
colossal404 wrote:I know NA import a lot of vehicles from Europe, but not too many. I think the rates between the NA and Euro trucks are 90%-10%, so there is a lot more american trucks than european. And the set need almost only NA trucks to keep the feeling of the set.
But you manage this set, I wont't interfere too much, only some drawings if I found them.
Well If you can help draw some of the few NA Model Euro trucks then that would help. Also I plan on doing road trains and large powerful Logging Trucks

Edit : Specs for the 2010 International Lonestar

Name : 2010 International Lonestar
Intro Year : 2009 (Most vehicles come out the year before its Model year)
End Year : n/a
Cost : $ 13,000
Running Cost : $ 2,000
Weight : 8t
Power : 600 Hp
Speed : 70 Mph (+/- as you'll see this on the highways)
Traction : 40 kN
Capacity : 40 Tonnes

Edit Edit : Pictures
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Edit of and Edit of an Edit of and Edit :p

More trucks :3

Volvo VNL 670
Year : 2006
End : --
Purchase Cost : $14,000
Running Cost : $1,900
Power : 450 Hp
Weight : 5 Tonnes
Speed : 75 Mph
Traction : 32 Kn
Capacity : 35 Tonnes

(Might be included if I can find evidence its in use somewhere in North America (CAN, USA, or MEX)
Volvo FH16
Year : 2005
End : --
Purchase Cost : $18,000
Running Cost : $3,000
Power : 700 Hp
Weight : 6 Tonnes
Speed : 75 Mph
Traction : 50 Kn
Capacity : 35 Tonnes (Single) 70 (Double) 95 (Triple)

International 8600
Year : 2005
End : --
Purchase Cost : $9,500
Running Cost : $1,000
Power : 330 Hp
Weight : 8 Tonnes
Speed : 70 Mph
Traction : 28 Kn
Capacity : 20 Tonnes

International Prostar
Year : 2008
End : --
Purchase Cost : $14,000
Running Cost : $1,900
Power : 500 Hp
Weight : 5 Tonnes
Speed : 75 Mph
Traction : 37 Kn
Capacity : 35 Tonnes

Freightliner Columbia 120
Year : 2000
End : --
Purchase Cost : $14,500
Running Cost : $1,900
Power : 515 Hp
Weight : 6 Tonnes
Speed : 70 Mph
Traction : 40 Kn
Capacity : 36 Tonnes

Frieghtliner M2
Year : 2005
End : --
Purchase Cost : $14,000
Running Cost : $1,900
Power : 219 Hp
Weight : 10 Tonnes
Speed : 65 Mph
Traction : 26 Kn
Capacity : 25 Tonnes

Peterbuilt Model 384
Year : 2007
End : --
Purchase Cost : $18,000
Running Cost : $1,500
Power : 470 Hp
Weight : 6 Tonnes
Speed : 70 Mph
Traction : 36 Kn
Capacity : 27 Tonnes

Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 26 Jul 2010 17:54
by Bob_Mackenzie
If you want things to scale it might be an idea to post the lengths of these trucks

Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 26 Jul 2010 19:42
by NekoMaster
Bob_Mackenzie wrote:If you want things to scale it might be an idea to post the lengths of these trucks
Its hard enough to find truck weights and capacities, finding the dimensions would be too much work for most trucks except modern ones.

Just google image the trucks name and then you might get its picture for reference. For now I have somethings I must attend to...

Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 26 Jul 2010 20:03
by andythenorth
In the case of the Lonestar, try this :twisted:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=international+lone ... all+length

First result should give you what you need (unless Google is customising your results to your search history). Either way, http://www.navistar.com/LoneStar/Specifications/

But in respect of specs for older trucks, what Neko said. However the key dimensions of most US on-highway trucks have not changed in maybe 60 years, so you should be ok. And at pixel size, it really won't show up much.

For what it's worth, I'm (slowly) working on standard scale and sprite layouts for BANDIT, including converting Pikka's train template sprite offsets to be suitable for road vehicles. I'm not doing it very fast though :) As you guys are doing this set to cover North America, and there's already Hungarian, German and Long Vehicles truck sets, perhaps Oz / Kiwi BANDIT should be my first version :)

Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 26 Jul 2010 20:15
by NekoMaster
andythenorth wrote:In the case of the Lonestar, try this :twisted:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=international+lone ... all+length

First result should give you what you need (unless Google is customising your SERPS to your search history). Either way, http://www.navistar.com/LoneStar/Specifications/

But in respect of specs for older trucks, what Neko said. However the key dimensions of most US on-highway trucks have not changed in maybe 60 years, so you should be ok. And at pixel size, it really won't show up much.

For what it's worth, I'm (slowly) working on standard scale and sprite layouts for BANDIT, including converting Pikka's train template sprite offsets to be suitable for road vehicles. I'm not doing it very fast though :) As you guys are doing this set to cover North America, and there's already Hungarian, German and Long Vehicles truck sets, perhaps Oz / Kiwi BANDIT should be my first version :)
Well, maybe you could help with this set if you have a little time. Btw isn't bandit suppose to cater toward the larger trucks on long huals and Offroading (including road trains like you see in Australia?)

Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 26 Jul 2010 20:27
by andythenorth
NekoMaster wrote:Btw isn't bandit suppose to cater toward the larger trucks on long huals
BANDIT is Trucks :P So just about any on-highway truck is fair game for inclusion (from small trucks up to road-trains).

I also want to keep all the sprite sizes *very* standard to allow for easy mix and match of trucks and trailers, that will make different combinations easier :)

Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 26 Jul 2010 21:45
by PikkaBird
NekoMaster wrote:
Bob_Mackenzie wrote:If you want things to scale it might be an idea to post the lengths of these trucks
Its hard enough to find truck weights and capacities, finding the dimensions would be too much work for most trucks except modern ones.

Just google image the trucks name and then you might get its picture for reference. For now I have somethings I must attend to...
Er, the length of trucks is a major legislative issue in the US, and indeed most highway semi-trailers have been built to the maximum length allowed at the time. It'd probably be the easiest statistic to find for old trucks. :P

Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 26 Jul 2010 23:29
by NekoMaster
Despite most trailers having common dimensions, you must take into account the hualing capabilities of the truck and the frame of the trailer least it gets overloaded.

Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 27 Jul 2010 01:08
by DanMacK
I'll get on finding the specs for the buses. They are CC as well...

Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 28 Jul 2010 07:53
by Bob_Mackenzie
F9000 Tanker - The internet leads me to believe there are no F9000 tanker - I couldn't find a pic so this is based on a similar Ford tanker
ford tanker.jpg
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Oil/Fuel Oil tanker
F9000 Oil.png
F9000 Oil.png (4.89 KiB) Viewed 11978 times

Tanker for other cargoes

F9000 Tanker.png
F9000 Tanker.png (4.8 KiB) Viewed 11978 times
Cheers

Bob

Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 28 Jul 2010 07:54
by Bob_Mackenzie
FWIW GRF with all the F9000 variants

F9000w.GRF
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Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 28 Jul 2010 20:05
by NekoMaster
Bob_Mackenzie wrote:FWIW GRF with all the F9000 variants

F9000w.GRF
NE and SE sprites are a little off (too close to the line in the road), other then that could you also add the Orion V Bus (one for City and one for Coach)

Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 29 Jul 2010 16:12
by oberhümer
Code and graphics for a UPS delivery van(included in LRVS), if you're interested.

Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 29 Jul 2010 17:12
by NekoMaster
oberhümer wrote:Code and graphics for a UPS delivery van(included in LRVS), if you're interested.
Thanks :3 credits and kudos for you

Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 31 Jul 2010 03:24
by NekoMaster
Argh! Finding specs for older trucks is so hard! Please if anyone has information on anything older then 1980's then please post. Also we really need large powerful trucks like logging trucks

Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 31 Jul 2010 05:30
by andythenorth
Pacific P16 spec sheet on this page: http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/kl_pacific.htm
And more here: http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pacific.htm

Generally just search 'brochure' on Hanks Site, that will keep you going for a while. Here's some:
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/dab_ads1.htm

Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 31 Jul 2010 07:51
by NekoMaster
Alright, I made some changes to the truck so that it will look proper when being used with industry sets like FIRS and ECS

Trucks will now be divided up into 4 categories : Box, Dumper, Tanker, and Flatbed (if available) and 2-3 for buses : City, Regional, and Coach
For now the F9000 doesnt support ECS cement (im not sure whats not supported in FIRS yet)

And heres yoru grf starting now at r100
NARVSw.GRF
NARVS r100 (31 July 10)
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Re: (OpenTTD) North American Road Vehicle Set (NARVS)

Posted: 03 Aug 2010 21:24
by NekoMaster
Some work on a 1991 International Paystar 5000 Dumper

Name : Paystar 5000
Year : 1990
Cost : $12,000
Run Cost : $1,000/yr
Weight : 8 Tonnes
Speed : 60 MPH
TE : 30 kN
Capacity 30 Tonnes (or 60 Crates of goods)