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Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18257)

Posted: 25 Nov 2009 10:34
by Quinn
Master, we got still Desync :-|

Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18257)

Posted: 25 Nov 2009 11:37
by petert
Quinn wrote:Master, we got still Desync :-|
Yes, the server has been having quite a few problems lately, so there will be lots of desyncs. Just wait until bigos fixes it.

Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18257)

Posted: 25 Nov 2009 12:06
by bigos
I'm afraid I can't do anything more then update to trunk :( I really don't know what cause those desyncs. Need to find someone who can help fix them. Thats strange that me and Konrad don't have desyncs... all other have.

Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18257)

Posted: 25 Nov 2009 13:45
by petert
bigos wrote:I'm afraid I can't do anything more then update to trunk :( I really don't know what cause those desyncs. Need to find someone who can help fix them. Thats strange that me and Konrad don't have desyncs... all other have.
Try adding each patch individually, then see which one causes desyncs.

Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18257)

Posted: 25 Nov 2009 14:04
by Rubidium
bigos wrote:Thats strange that me and Konrad don't have desyncs... all other have.
You are playing with breakdowns turned off and all the others are playing with it turned on? You are starting the server and both joining before any vehicle gets made and the others are joining when vehicles are made?
There's lots of simple reasons why stuff wouldn't work and testing all patches at once is certainly a good way to get lost in finding what causes the problem.

Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18257)

Posted: 25 Nov 2009 16:14
by Quinn
i guess it would be good to compare what could be different between us and you and konrad!

may somebody got experince with that??

Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18257)

Posted: 25 Nov 2009 18:40
by konrad2201pl
I haven't got any desync, on my stacionary PC. But using weaker notebook I have Desyncs all the time.
On staciory I am using vista 64bit, on notebook xp 32. But I think that only hardware is a problem.
Suggest make smaller map instead of 1024x512.


Edit. Now game restarded. No active players on companies, so game paused. I connected by stacionary comp and 2nd client is from laptop. Desyncs from laptop still. Even game pazued, no vechicles etc.

Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18257)

Posted: 25 Nov 2009 18:41
by bigos
Rubidium wrote:
bigos wrote:Thats strange that me and Konrad don't have desyncs... all other have.
You are playing with breakdowns turned off and all the others are playing with it turned on? You are starting the server and both joining before any vehicle gets made and the others are joining when vehicles are made?
There's lots of simple reasons why stuff wouldn't work and testing all patches at once is certainly a good way to get lost in finding what causes the problem.
Breakdowns are safe. They dont cause desyncs in such sensitivity like we have now. Problem is in tracks. I have 2 patches that works at tracks and they cause desyncs (I'm almost sure).
I will remove "Patch: Grass growth on unused tracks" and see how it works (unfortunately property maintenance patch is biggest problem and I don't want to remove it). Best idea will be when costs for tracks will be only checked by server and sent result to clients (this will solve problems with connections or computers performance differences - in my opinion cause of desyncs ) but I don't know how to write such function. Would be grate if someone help me in this.

Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18288)

Posted: 25 Nov 2009 19:46
by bigos
OK removed 2 (to test others) patches and merged with trunk... info and files in first post.

Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18288)

Posted: 26 Nov 2009 02:17
by petert
Check it out, frosch did some investigating, and some fixing (r18295)

Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18288)

Posted: 26 Nov 2009 20:13
by bigos
Still desyncs... This weekend I will set sever to test patches 1 by 1. Need help from you guys... Just play on it so we can check which patch cause it. Tomorrow we will start form IMC patch (most probable that it cas desyncs). Later will be tax patch... and next IB 2.5 if there will be no results.

Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18288)

Posted: 27 Nov 2009 06:14
by thepalm
Have you thought about adding my disable/limit terraform patch

It sets a monthly limit for terraforming of which some is preserved - see http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php? ... 6&start=0&

the patch is at http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=118288 and compiles with svn r18195

Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18288)

Posted: 27 Nov 2009 11:37
by bigos
thepalm wrote:Have you thought about adding my disable/limit terraform patch

It sets a monthly limit for terraforming of which some is preserved - see http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php? ... 6&start=0&

the patch is at http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=118288 and compiles with svn r18195
Yes I was. I will probably add it but first need to take care of those desyncs.

Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18288)

Posted: 27 Nov 2009 14:54
by petert
thepalm wrote:Have you thought about adding my disable/limit terraform patch

It sets a monthly limit for terraforming of which some is preserved - see http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php? ... 6&start=0&

the patch is at http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=118288 and compiles with svn r18195
Interesting patch, are you going to continue to keep it up-to-date?

Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18288)

Posted: 27 Nov 2009 15:00
by bigos
petert wrote:
thepalm wrote:Have you thought about adding my disable/limit terraform patch

It sets a monthly limit for terraforming of which some is preserved - see http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php? ... 6&start=0&

the patch is at http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=118288 and compiles with svn r18195
Interesting patch, are you going to continue to keep it up-to-date?
Is this question to me?:P Or in wrong topic?

Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18288)

Posted: 27 Nov 2009 15:03
by petert
bigos wrote:Is this question to me?:P Or in wrong topic?
Well, I did quote thepalm, but you're right, I should privately message him. Sorry.

Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18288)

Posted: 27 Nov 2009 18:19
by bigos
I decided to set server on nightly (r18309) so we have base for other patches. Would be grate if you join server and make company as big as you can... Tomorrow if we will have many companies I will try load game on patched versions and then check desyncs.

EDIT: changed to current trunk.

Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18288)

Posted: 28 Nov 2009 17:21
by petert
How was the trunk game? Have you already started the debug testing?

Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18288)

Posted: 28 Nov 2009 17:24
by bigos
petert wrote:How was the trunk game? Have you already started the debug testing?
No results... People with desyncs didn't shown up yet... or they cant connect. Maybe this evening will be more players. Changed version to current trunk.

Re: Bigos Pack - Hard Srver Pack(r18288)

Posted: 28 Nov 2009 23:03
by bigos
IPM patch seems to be safe. Tomorrow evening wy will try other patches. During day will be normal (trunk) game version so ppl can build more companies (would be nice if they do).