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Thanks for lending your thoughts Maedhros.

Basically the biggest factor that led to me calling it 'hackish' is the way the higher engine IDs are handled - they're stacked on top of the existing 256 engines in slots 256-511, 512-767, 768-1023, etc. This can lead to situations where some code expects the regular 8 bit values, and some can deal with the larger values. (Note that this is the way Magic Buzz also went about it, as it makes the necessary changes relatively easy.)

I did try and fix this by creating a SlotID type and passing it along any time an EngineID is passed, but this got very out of hand very quickly. It would almost be impossible to implement in this fashion.

So maybe I can clean up the code some what and achieve an acceptable compromise. It's not ready for testing yet anyway because there are still some bugs, so I'll just keep working and post it up when it's ready for public scrutiny.

Most bugs are gone and the GUI is done. Can anyone suggest an acceptable way of creating separate vehicle base costs for each slot? I've come up with 2 ideas but don't particularly like either of them:

1. Make the whole _price array 2D, though most of it will be redundant.
2. Split out the vehicle costs and make them 2D, but that's getting a bit ugly. Edit: actually this is growing on me if I can find a nice way to do it.

Any ideas?

dev|ant, i'm not a coder, but i appreciate your attempt to raise the amount of veh. IDs, so keep the good work so you can show a patch for us players to try

Thanks mate, I appreciate the support.

I feel like I'm just chasing bugs at the moment, work is only progressing slowly.

Almost done. I think I'll add a filtering option, because that list is almost out of control.

Nice to know you are having progress with the patch dev|ant

Wow, nice work! Are the different grfs forced to load into different slots, or can they be made to coexist in one?

(Just to encourage you, since there is not much feedback to your posts lately.)

Digitalfox: Yes I'm actually making progress again. I spent a good week trying to hunt down a single bug.

Zephyris: You can put the GRFs into any slot. The original vehicles in slot 0 are always active, while vehicles in other slots are only active once a NewGRF modifies them.

athanasios: Thanks!

Dear my! This is truly going to be completely awesome! Now I'll be able to combine DB Set XL and the CSD set without having the chance of OTTD crashing! Maybe even add the NG part of ther Serb set to it... *starts drooling*

Keep up the good work!

Imagine all the "new vehicle available" messages when using a bunch of new vehicles grf!! : )_________

The best single feature in the whole OTTD
I already love it.
Now I can finally combine Serbian, Czech and DBset and also make an additional DRset with only a few additions

I love you all

dev|ant - sounds like fantastic progress on this.

Does it retain the vehicle type limits within the 256 block? ie. trains ~110, a/c ~80, ships ~10, road ~50 ish, or can a newgrf set now basically ignore that limit and create, say, 200 road vehicles in one set?

Would be fantastic to be able to create a UKRS version with all those "missing" classes - 50s, 52s, 45s, 56s, etc, and still retain the maglev and monorail systems.

nilsi wrote:The best single feature in the whole OTTD

I do not want to be rude, but aren't we a little bit over reacting?
Although I admit it is indeed cool, I somehow can think of many more features that did changed more radically the game play of OTTD...
But... you are entitled to your opinion And I respect it

TerraGenesis & NewIndustries support for example.... although personally, if this works OK, it will go straight into my top 3 fave features. I just need to get the willpower & time together to create the all-climates-at-once patch that is the perfect parallel for this feature.

@belugas: No
It is a question of personal taste of course, but using the serbian narrow gauge set with the dbset will probably switch me to OTTD after long years with the patch. I do not need more industries or better landscape but this one just plain rules.

PS: Changing gameplay is not exactly what I want.

wow i am really looking forward to see this patch bug freeor even in trunk

nilsi wrote:The best single feature in the whole OTTD

heh..Even not newindustries support...I think the best is NewGRF support and pre-signals. Although others are closely behind..

Lord

Let us not start comparing new features. All coders have worked hard and deserve our awe.
Regarding this one now, came to my mind the endless discussion, under TTDPatch, for vehicle slots...

Yeah, I thought it funny that TTDP can spend so much breath on arguing over how many buses to allow in a road vehicles set... well, duh! Just allow as many sets as you want.