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Posted: 24 May 2005 09:01
by Daan Timmer
Illegal_Alien wrote:DaaNtje wrote:Illegal_Alien wrote:Well, this traisn are orgininaly desighnes for MSTS so they look better. The oned from Scrat and a Oppie are designed for Loco only. So you cant compare them.
not only that... scrat/oppie made those tranis themselfe. gave them their shape and colors, by hand... and not by simply converting/batching them from an existing MSTS model.
Still looks nice there IA

These are the trains of Shifty Powers dont switch us :+
woops hahahahaha

my bad!!!!!!!
anyway, same thing goes for shifty

Posted: 24 May 2005 10:01
by Shifty Powers
Thanks Daantje, soon a new update, with all the trains of my previous post, (2nd page last one) and brand new, the Plan U in red and yellow.
Posted: 24 May 2005 11:04
by d00mh4mm3r
well there has to be an Start and an End to everything, and I am to belive that the NL-set is at its end, no more adding on to it, no more changing it (SO I hope... getting annyed DL new updates)
After all, once something comes to an end, a new start is made

Posted: 24 May 2005 11:17
by Shifty Powers
d00mh4mm3r wrote:After all, once something comes to an end, a new start is made

And you forgot to say; 'A new update!'
New screen of the added vehicles.
- NS Plan U (yellow)
- NS Plan U (red)
- NS ICR Benelux (carriage + Bs (Driving carriage))
- NS ICR (carriage + BDs (Driving carriage))
- NS IC+
and a special one:
- NS 'Royal Carriage' (Carriage used by Her Majesty Queen Beatrix van Oranje and relatives, also the prime-minister may use it for his work)
Posted: 24 May 2005 13:19
by Shifty Powers
I hope you guys like the smell of new vehicles, new one is the DD-AR, with propper lenth of the mDDM motor carriage. To use it you have to buy both components seperatly and then it's useable.
As you all know, the 'old' version had a problem of motor carriage length. The length whas the same as the rest of the carriages. With this one it has been fixed by seperate both parts. The engine, and the carriages. To make the set complete, you have to buy both trains. (The mDDM can drive on it's own, but it looks like s*** without the DD-AR)
Posted: 24 May 2005 16:13
by Illegal_Alien
Why do i have the feeling that they are too small?

Posted: 24 May 2005 16:33
by G-TANK-G
Illegal_Alien wrote:Why do i have the feeling that they are too small?

maybe they are, abit small. but they're good.
Posted: 24 May 2005 17:27
by Shifty Powers
IA: I shrink them by 30%, so 70% of the original model is left over. It's the same size of you compare the NL Sprinter with the NS Sprinter, so I do all my models that have got carriages.
So I think there not too small.
Posted: 24 May 2005 17:36
by DeletedUser21
the size is good, I suppose, for example: 'If you build the a very long station, the DD-IRM's-EMU6 didn't fit in if you coupled 2 together witch is a bit unrealistic IMO, so if you reduce the size of that one too, it could be a nice set, but the only problem is that I can't download it, lycos is making fun of me by giving me a redirect to a blank page.

Posted: 24 May 2005 18:00
by Shifty Powers
Strange Mr.X, anyway, I'm working on a own domain, not online yet, need to make a website first, but after that the download will be there. Also I'll try to upload the download again, so I can see what is happening.
Maby you can try to use the right-mouse button and 'save as', that should work.
Posted: 24 May 2005 18:04
by DeletedUser21
hey that worked,

stupid of me that I didn't find that out myself.

Posted: 24 May 2005 18:10
by Shifty Powers
Mr. X wrote:hey that worked,

stupid of me that I didn't find that out myself.

We'll sometimes people need a bit of a help
Posted: 25 May 2005 10:49
by Shifty Powers
After some words with IA, I decided to shrink the models diverend. First I only shrink the length, now I also change that to 80% instead of 70%, and the width and heigth are going to be 110% instead of the standard 100%.
It's not a lot of work, cause all the data can be used from previous models, only the sprites need to be redone. So I expect that within 3/4 days the work until now can be completed with new downloads.
Posted: 25 May 2005 10:52
by mstsuser
I have been informed that some "developers" use graphics from msts models without permission. I see all kind of skins, made by different developers for msts, used in TT and locomotion, using a conversion tool and claim it's them creation. If you are that kind of a "developer" realize what you are doing, don't say they are not going to get me.
For personal use it's no problem, but making them available for download is illegal and action to stop that will be taken.
It's fair to ask the owner of the graphics if you are allowed to use his textures, mostly the answer is yes. Credits of the owner must be in a readme so every user knows who owns the graphic. I have been looking in these downloads but can't find any legal credits.
This is just a warning to you all, don't destroy the pleasure by using textures without permission of the owner.
Speaking for the msts textures owners group BST, models and textures you have used in your NS creations are illegal without permission , so we give you 24 hours to remove them until further notice, please contact the owner of the graphics for permission. If you not take this notice seriously , you will be prosecuted and proper action against you will be taken.
Regards
mst users
Posted: 25 May 2005 10:59
by Shifty Powers
I didn't had the time to do that, my personal life has been busy enough for me to work on other things, when the next download is ready, permission will be asked from the designers. Not sooner. Got it dude, if you're new, it doesn't mean you can say to me what I must do or don't, but this is what I can tell you, get out of my topic and do not start a damn fight here!
Posted: 25 May 2005 11:19
by mstsuser
Don't have time is a well know excuse. You have time to write this message so you have time to write an e-mail to the owners of the msts models.
Don't come to me with this stupid answer, take the action and remove the downloads, until you have permission to use the msts models.
Yes i am new here but that doesn't mean I am not allowed to mention you on illegal use of someone’s properties.
I am not new in the world of illegal use of all kinds of stuff and i know how to handle.
Regards
msts user
Posted: 25 May 2005 11:31
by Shifty Powers
Download is removed, and e-mail has been send to the persons in question.
Btw, that threat, that doesn't work with me. Everybody knows how to find people, including me, so a stupid answer.
But permission has been asked!
Posted: 25 May 2005 11:43
by hubcap
Hhhmmm
Shifty you have serious attitude issues, me thinks we been here before !!.
Come back Scrat.....
Posted: 25 May 2005 11:54
by Shifty Powers
hubcap wrote:Hhhmmm
Shifty you have serious attitude issues, me thinks we been here before !!.
Come back Scrat.....
seriously, what does this message has to do with this topic? seems a bit useless
Posted: 25 May 2005 12:22
by d00mh4mm3r
grand.. its people like "mstsuser" that get modders to close there downloads.
How self-senterd are you guys, mods are used to make people happy, and thats all that counts, gezz,
+ half the time it could take months be-for the "original" mod maker of msts sends a reply.
SO to speak no design is original, did the msts mod makers ask the actual designers of the real thing to create an msts design???.
most trains are a bunch of drawings all put together to form one nice looking chunk of steel
