Dutch Trainset v2.0

[Hoontje]

Uuuuhm Purno,

Not too complain, just as an attention to perfection... I saw the 'motorpost' model (PTT uitvoering) in your banner beneath your last post.
The yellow nose in it is wrong... The both have this line between red and yellow => / and it's in reallife this:

front: yellow / red \ yellow instead of yellow / red / yellow...

Just a remark, and maybe I'm wrong?

Good luck with coding!

Greetz,

Hoontje

[Purno]

looks like yellow / red / yellow to me

[BlueEagle_nl]

In reverse order:
The blue looks bluer in the snow than it does in the grass. On grass it looks quite ok to me - shouldn't be any darker or it won't stand out.

What makes you think the locomotive is ACTS? I think it's just a rather old locomotive (1200?)

Well, the yellow line with the white spot in the middle made me think it was an ACTS...

I just send a mail to NS and the Spoorwegmuseum for some information about passenger coach liveries and the locs which dragged them. I'll keep you posted when more info is available.

And what about the National Model Railway Museum in Sneek?

Still looking for contact information, but I already saw Hoontje did that one...

For the coding part: OK, I understand... I am working on my own GRFs atm as well...

[DeletedUser21]

Purno, as an added bonus, include the 1400 aswell.

-photo's http://www.NicoSpilt.nl

[Hoontje]

looks like yellow / red / yellow to me

Okay... Shoot me...

I didn't get a reaction from Sneek yet, but I'll keep you guy's posted!

The "plan U" drawed in your picture, is it also in the 'red-devil' livery available? Or is this another stupid question?

Hoontje

[BlueEagle_nl]

// FREELY TRANSLATED FROM THEIR E-MAIL:

Dear Leon

You sent a great, but hard question. A list like that does not exist, just because the early firms had an own stock, in which carriages mostly drove in several combinations along with several locs. It's not that a certain series of coaches drove with a certain series of locs. At least, not by standard.

Of course you can show me the result, so I can indicate if the set is historically correct. That is way easier for us both. Also, for the current stock it's easier.

Success!

Yours sincerely,
...

But, still no response from the NS. Can't get a correct e-mail address for them, where info@ns.nl as well as service@ns.nl return "This mailbox does not exist-errors"

From this mail of the Spoorwegmuseum I should say, just look which carriages were used when and use random liveries (perhaps limited by adjacent carriages, so all carraiges in a train look the same) for them. We can always send our results and screenies to the Spoorwegmuseum to let them check if it's historically correct...

I'll keep working on the NS-part.

EDIT: The original e-mail is available, just let me know and I'll forward it your way

[Purno]

Did you tell the time period is 1920-now? Anything before 1920 is not relevant. Besides, you may want to list the engine we need to know the info of, those are listed in the InfoSheet. Any other engines, for example those barely used, are not interesting.

Thanks for your efforts so far.

Coding has come to a sudden halt due GRFMaker displaying errors like "Out of memory"...

[BlueEagle_nl]

I did mention that, but just as the man from the Spoorwegmuseom said, there's a variety of passenger coaches, which are used in a lot of different set ups. So even for those we still need, the overview will take a lot of time to be filled. I'll re-ask the question, listing only the engines we still need the info for.

[Purno]

And perhaps also mention only the 'most used' coaches.

And perhaps we can figure out which engines were only used for freight? (On another note, it might also be interesting to know which engines were only used for passengers, and not for freight).

[Hertog-Dixi]

Most of the NS Engines where used for freight and passengers sooner or later (even 2200's where used for passengers a short time)
Most of the Diesel engines where used for freight except for a short time 2200's where used in the achterhoek...
I Think only modern locomotives have a single design purpose (like the 1800 are moslty used in Push-Pull configs and 1600 are used by raillion)

[Purno]

Anyone knows the stats of the NS LighTTrain "Sprinter"?

[vanOekelen]

Which stats do you need?
For power, max speed, length and weight see: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprinter_Lighttrain .

[Purno]

Thank you

I'm done coding the NS set so far. Everything I know to code, I coded. What remains is the things I don't know how to code.

The trainset will go through a playtesting weekend within the developers group. After that we'll see what to do, I guess.

Attached is a screenshot of the vehicle list in 2035.

[vanOekelen]

Looks very good Purno!
But is there a special reason that the type of fuel for the class 58 isn't stated? (I think it should be Diesel, it has a diesel-electric transmission)

[Purno]

Yes, there is a special reason; I forgot it. Damn, first bug found before the release.

[DeletedUser21]

The image tells it all:

OTTD 0.6.0 Beta2

When I'm building too much Blokkendozen. In year 1950 etc.

Anyway this trainset is splendid!

[Toni Babelony]

Will the passenger coaches undergo a livery change when the engine is exchanged in the depot? If not, this could mean that Plan W and ICK coaches can be mixed together for realism..

Sorry I couldn't be much of a help this time, but playing with this set will truely be awesome!

[Purno]

Will the passenger coaches undergo a livery change when the engine is exchanged in the depot? If not, this could mean that Plan W and ICK coaches can be mixed together for realism..

The only livery change I know how to code is an immediate livery change for everything when a new year opened. That'll mean that all coaches will become ICKs. They don't even have to visit the depot.

[Deblaauwn]

Some minor, unimportant comments again:
You have two 'selfdischargers', one small and one big. Shouldn't the latter one be named large selfdischarger for more consitence with the other carriages?
I also believe refridgerator should not have the d in it (refrigerator or fridge).
Why does the wadloper have black lines around the doors?

[Purno]

Some minor, unimportant comments again:
You have two 'selfdischargers', one small and one big. Shouldn't the latter one be named large selfdischarger for more consitence with the other carriages?

Possibly. Internally these wagons are named Selfdischarger I and Selfdischarger II. Though these names aren't used ingame since we still miss a few cargo wagons.

I also believe refridgerator should not have the d in it (refrigerator or fridge).

I don't know. If you're sure I'll adjust this.

Why does the wadloper have black lines around the doors?

That's a drawing style.