planetmaker wrote:You have found a nice range of old strings which needed some attention
That was exactly what I was planning
I sorted by "last changed strings" and then worked my way from the back
Also wrt the airports: though sceptical when reading, I turned to like it when I looked at it ingame
Two points and one question though:
"Fahrzeug kann nicht umgedreht werden" is IMO worse than the previously existing "Fahrzeug kann nicht wenden". Ein Fahrzeug wendet (aktiv) eher als dass es umgedreht wird (passiv) and is - IMO - a clear case of a too direct translation. I would like to revert that
No, it's also used for turning (passivly, i.e. being turned by the player) train parts in the depot. (Ctrl+Click)
I filed a flyspray task for seperating those two. I hope the devs will implement it soon, so we can have two nice strings, "kann nicht umgedreht werden" for the Train-Depot stuff and "Kann nicht wenden" for the road vehicle not being able to turn.
I searched the source code to see exactly where this string is used
Of course right now it will always be wrong for one of the two.. so I hope the flyspray task gets some attention...
FS#3019
STR_GROUP_ADD_SHARED_VEHICLE "Gemeinsame F. hinzufügen"
Was spricht gegen das Ausschreiben? Warum muß das jetzt kürzer als der m.E. beschreibende, vorherige String? Also this is something I'd like to revert
edit: to make it more clear: this string is used in a horribly tight drop down in the advanced vehicle list
Hmm, my favorite would actually be "Fahrzeuge mit gemeinsamen Fahrplan hinzufügen" (because the orders are what's really shared in "shared vehicles"), but then I checked ingame where this had to fit. And I noticed that the old string "Gemeinsam genutzte Fahrzeuge hinzufügen" was already truncated to "Gemeinsam genutzt..." which leaves the reader with
no idea what it actually means. The most important thing of the sentence, the verb "hinzufügen" is completely hidden. So my plan was to change it to something where at least part of the verb is still visible.
I understand that my proposal is rather horrible with the abbreviation of "Fahrzeuge" zu "F.", so if you have any better ideas, please share them.
PS: just looked it up ingame, even my string is much too long; it says "Gemeinsame F. hinz..." which still might leave the reader puzzled what verb it is. I guess it would have to be "Gem. Fzg. hinzufügen" before one can clearly read the verb...
STR_SORT_BY_WAITING "Wert der wartenden Fracht"
Uhm... does it really sort by monetary value and not by amount?
Should I sound differently: no offence is meant with these remarks / questions
Yes it does
Not only does the english string speak of "value" and not "amount",
I also made a little test ingame (18 tons of coal or so were ranked higher than 25 or so passengers) and to be safe, looked in the code.
In the function StationWaitingSorter in station_gui.cpp it's easy to see that it queries the Income you would get if you were to transport exactly the waiting cargo a distance of 20 (tiles?) in 50 days. And that's the (transportation) value of the waiting cargo. (Of course it's not the absolute value of the cargo, as this is nowhere defined in the game)
Oh, and I didn't take anything you wrote as an offense. In return, please do not understand my writing as klugscheissen.
We should really prepare some language guide on translation guidelines
I guess the wiki might be a good place...
Some general remarks (with what I tried the recent months)
- use "ausgewählt" for all cases of highlightes, selected, chosen or similar
- avoid abbr. where o. can
- Herunterladen statt Download
- Scrollen für das Verschieben der Bildansicht (ist das konsequent? auch umgesetzt?)
1) In one case it's still "aussuchen" instead of "auswählen": The manager face. In this case it may be fine though because you kinda browse through the faces to find a nice one, which might well be "aussuchen", instead of the normal case - dropdown menus where you choose ("auswählen") an option.
2) Of course, but in some cases it may be needed. e.g. the "Gemeinsame F. hinzufügen" thing above
3) Sure thing.
4) I also noticed this, I think it's not yet consistent. There are also two things that may be called "scroll" in english: moving the view (with right mouse or arrow keys) and instant jumping to a position (e.g. by clicking on the smallmap or a "center on me"-Button)
The first thing should imo either be called "Verschieben" or "Scrollen", just consistently.
The second thing on the other hand, should imo be called "Hauptansicht auf XY zentrieren" instead of "zu XY scrollen". What do you think?
The changes I made already went into that direction but I think it's not yet fully consistent.