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TestAccount wrote:gnnn .. gnnnnnnnnn .. i found a problem
see below .. it's self-explaining i guess
PS: Just noticed this is the ttdpatch forum, no idea if there is the same error. I just tested it with nightly from openTTD

You need to say, what version (and date) of the GRF and OTTD do you have?

will check these errors in the latest nightly and then I will post a list ok?

Greetz

openTTD r11361

These are the dates directly from grf files as shown in openTTD

Town Vector 17.10.07
Agri Vector 08.10.07
Chem Vector 13.01.06
Const Vector 13.01.06
Machine Vector 01.11.07
Wood Vector 08.10.07
Basic Vector 13.01.06

used grf's

TestAccount wrote:openTTD r11361
Agri Vector 08.10.07

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[newgrf]
newcargow.grf

And here is your problem. Latest ECS Agricultural vector does not have default food plant graphics. So it belongs to the another grf. this one.

Hi,

I have some problems with breweries. They tend to get closed even if I suply them with fruits and glass. Taking the beer to the next town doesn't help either. I have the feeling that some industries close very early.

Maybe you replaced a grf with a newer version and run a saved game? It happened to me (in OpenTTD). I had to edit the saved game in the editor and replace the affected industries.

fjb wrote:I have some problems with breweries. They tend to get closed even if I suply them with fruits and glass. Taking the beer to the next town doesn't help either. I have the feeling that some industries close very early.

How good do you supply them? If they have Very low production level, than they can close down with 0.3% chance every month. That is much Especially for breweries, who do not get protection in spring, when you do not supply them with fruit, and a close down chance is 3%. You have to establish effective transportation system. Usually I make the following trick: I split the line into 2 parts and put a transfer station in the middle. First (larger) group of trains/vehicles gather fruit form plantations and transport them to transfer station with Unload. The second group slowly transports them to brewery. This transfer station negates the boom schema of plantation's production and provides stable delivery to brewery

Thank you. I tried to decouple the fruit production and the brewery. Maybe that was not enough. The new industries are fun. But most of them disappear before I have enough money to establish a big network. But I will try harder next time. I founded a new brewery, hope it will stay alive.

George wrote:

TestAccount wrote:openTTD r11361
Agri Vector 08.10.07

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[newgrf]
newcargow.grf

And here is your problem. Latest ECS Agricultural vector does not have default food plant graphics. So it belongs to the another grf. this one.

And that means i should load newcargow before loading argicultural vector grf? Or what else i'm supposed to do to fix it?

TestAccount wrote:And that means i should load newcargow before loading argicultural vector grf? Or what else i'm supposed to do to fix it?

I suppose you have to ask Michael Blunck for a new version. This one is too old

Ok seems like newcargow.grf wasn't the problem .. tinfactory was working with it well. Anyway i encountered another problem .. there is the tinyfactory which should accept livestock, fish and steel. It accepts the first and second one .. but stations refuses to accept steel .. any idea? I removed newcargow.grf but the error still exists.

TestAccount wrote:Ok seems like newcargow.grf wasn't the problem .. tinfactory was working with it well. Anyway i encountered another problem .. there is the tinyfactory which should accept livestock, fish and steel. It accepts the first and second one .. but stations refuses to accept steel .. any idea? I removed newcargow.grf but the error still exists.

there may be these reasons:
1) no steel defined
2) steel stockpile is overflowed
3) other reason that requires more information

George wrote:

TestAccount wrote:Ok seems like newcargow.grf wasn't the problem .. tinfactory was working with it well. Anyway i encountered another problem .. there is the tinyfactory which should accept livestock, fish and steel. It accepts the first and second one .. but stations refuses to accept steel .. any idea? I removed newcargow.grf but the error still exists.

there may be these reasons:
1) no steel defined
2) steel stockpile is overflowed
3) other reason that requires more information

1) that means? other factories accept steel just tin factory doesnt
2) i guess no there is a zero
3) what information? I will crawl for it

TestAccount wrote:1) that means? other factories accept steel just tin factory doesnt
2) i guess no there is a zero
3) what information? I will crawl for it

please post screenshot, config, savegame, build version

I guess there's a big overflow problem with ECS (I could be mistaken).
Cause some factories accept a certain amont of cargo and then for no good
reason they stopped accepting these goods because there's a to big of
stock pile waiting to be processed. I had this with a steelmill and with a fruitplantation
(fertiliser) and so on but like I said before will give you a list of errors tomorrow when I've
tested them all, I just want to know which version of OpenTTD I have to use
ChrisIN or the latest nightly?

Sir A. Boey wrote:I guess there's a big overflow problem with ECS (I could be mistaken).
Cause some factories accept a certain amont of cargo and then for no good
reason they stopped accepting these goods because there's a to big of
stock pile waiting to be processed. I had this with a steelmill and with a fruitplantation
(fertiliser) and so on but like I said before will give you a list of errors tomorrow when I've
tested them all, I just want to know which version of OpenTTD I have to use
ChrisIN or the latest nightly?

I never tested it in ChrisIN version. Currently I use R11368
Please do not report things that are intended. The stockpile size is a documented thing.
http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=ECSVectors
Please read the wiki first.

sorry mate was just trying to help...

Sir A. Boey wrote:sorry mate was just trying to help...

Please do it carefully

2Wally:
Could you add some description about industries in general?
Like what is stock pile size, how do production go (not all the accepted cargo is processed at once, as it was for default industries, but by small doses), what are production levels (they were hidden in original TTD, and was seen only for raw material through production last month).

George wrote:Could you add some description about industries in general?

I'll see what I can do.

So screenshot, savegame and version information. I hope it helps ...

Version of the ECSFiles are the same as in one of my last posts