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Posted: 12 Oct 2006 18:51
by OKF2000
Bjarni i thing we shall fortekt the car onto we now..

the new IC4 are the a DMU or EMU...

the i need to how wort types the forlerinf are..

Lynetten (privat lines)
Triangel
Mak
Marcipanbrød

shall we inculdt Ranger Locomotis in this one shall we put i the Milestone list after ships..

the fisht tracking table is here.. (it is not complet)
krtaylor wrote:Does Denmark have enough trains for a complete trainset anyway?
i thing widht abort 80 trians in it at the time and more comeing, we do have enough.

Posted: 12 Oct 2006 21:21
by Lachris
Nice tabel :) good work... hope ppl are up for it 8)

Posted: 12 Oct 2006 21:46
by Bjarni
OKF2000 wrote:Bjarni i thing we shall fortekt the car onto we now..
sure. It's actually not an important wagon anyway.
OKF2000 wrote:the new IC4 are the a DMU or EMU...
They are diesel because their main purpose is intercity between Copenhagen and Århus (and further north) and there is no catenary between Fredericia and Århus, which renders EMUs rahter useless for that route.
OKF2000 wrote:the i need to how wort types the forlerinf are..

Lynetten (privat lines)
Triangel
Mak
Marcipanbrød
We need two Triangels. One is the 2 axle petrol one and the other is the 3 bogie diesel-electric one.
OKF2000 wrote:shall we inculdt Ranger Locomotis in this one shall we put i the Milestone list after ships..
First, they are called "switching engines" in English, secondly, you already added one with litra Q.
krtaylor wrote:Does Denmark have enough trains for a complete trainset anyway?
That's not a problem. I can always find more if needed, like say the steam "DMUs" (are those called SMUs :wink: ). I know of at least two different ones, but I say we skip at least the first one as it's a weak and slow engine from 1880 with a lifetime of a few years (less than 5 if I recall correctly). Gaining the needed numbers is not a problem.


As for the list, I got additions: (sorry, could only find links in Danish)
Scandia skinnebus (late 1940s)
http://www.jernbaneklub.dk/lfb/lok-vogn ... vj-sm7.htm
http://www.veterantoget.dk/materiel/motor/lnjsm13.html
Note: both contains technical data and you will notice, that they are not identical.

And steam from private railroads:
http://www.veterantoget.dk/materiel/damp/okmj14.html (notice, this one is "litra" OKMJ as well :P )
http://www.ohj38.dk/pic/101.jpg (same design, but enlarged to 4 powered axles and 20 tons heavier)
Both of these are of Danish design and have been used by several lines. As for naming, they didn't really have that many locomotives, so they didn't assign litra or class or anything, they just gave them numbers, so no. 1 is the first locomotive they ever had, no. 2 is the next and so on, not caring for design or anything. I don't really know if the designs themselves even have official names of their own.

[EDIT]forgot to ask: what happened to MZ III and IV? There are actually 4 different designs all called MZ. They can likely share sprites as the tiny details to tell them apart are likely too small to show up on the number of pixels we can use (MZ (I) got bigger front windows, but they were replaced by smaller ones because 1: the drivers were blinded by the sun, 2: they were not wind proof so the wind hit the driver).
They are really different in performance though. They got different max speed, different gearing and different power. They also got gone non-TTD related differences like IV is easier to drive when used as a switching engine.

Posted: 12 Oct 2006 22:26
by Lachris
Bjarni good heavens you know A LOT about danish trains/wagons :twisted:

some more to add: Pix for many danish trains and more
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pix.html

Hope you like it :wink:

Posted: 13 Oct 2006 04:46
by OKF2000
i will put them ind the list letear to day.. plus som trian cars.

Posted: 13 Oct 2006 07:38
by Purno
Nice tracking table, but pictures in it would be great for artists :wink:

Posted: 13 Oct 2006 08:23
by Bjarni
Some pics:
2 axle triangel: http://www.veterantoget.dk/materiel/motor/lnjm4.html (note, this is actually the real pig, not litra Y. The reason for the name is the horn. It tried to sound like a steam whistle, but sounds more like a screaming pig)
3 bogie triangel: http://www.sfvj.dk/materiel/matbilleder/vltjm6.jpg
http://www.sfvj.dk/forsid2.gif
Marcipanbrød: http://www.veterantoget.dk/materiel/mot ... hjm8_b.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pri ... _HILLE.jpg
http://www.veterantoget.dk/materiel/mot ... /l1_m8.gif
http://www.jernbaneklub.dk/lfb/lok-vogn ... /sb-m5.jpg

MaK:
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pri ... hj_m11.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pri ... HILLER.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pri ... HJ/m11.jpg (with a Scandia railcar next to it)

Litra Y (lynette)
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pri ... gb_lyn.gif
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pri ... ljym66.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pri ... kagen1.jpg (SB livery)
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pri ... tbanen.jpg (Vestbanen livery)

Regiosprinter:
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pri ... j_rspr.jpg

MR/MRD: (MRD is an MR with a room for bikes and stuff)
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pri ... Tonder.jpg (Arriva livery, close to the German border as you can see on the other track)
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pri ... -05_11.jpg (Arriva livery)
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/die ... G_1793.jpg (blue-gray DSB livery)
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/die ... MR4067.jpg (red DSB livery)
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/die ... RD4288.jpg (red-white DSB livery)

MX:
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pri ... mx19_3.jpg (repainted into HFHJ livery)
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pri ... 07SB10.jpg (in SB and red-black liveries)
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pri ... _sb_m9.jpg (SB livery)
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pri ... /MX102.jpg (OHJ livery)
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pri ... esjs41.jpg (ØSJS livery)

MY:
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pri ... akskov.jpg (LJ livery)
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pri ... akskov.jpg (red-black DSB livery)

Now we got started. We can always discuss what liveries we want and if we want all of them.

Oh, one kind of engine that I forgot in the last post:
http://www.jernbaner.dk/mhvj/images/Svelle2.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/dk/pri ... -M4-LR.jpg

Posted: 13 Oct 2006 08:37
by Michael24
Seriously, the MY and MX a such a good lookinging machine! And proberly the most steady engine the Danish railroad have ever had! :o

Great pics bjarni!

Btw: I'm from Bramming, but i've lived in Norway for almost 17 years now.

Posted: 13 Oct 2006 15:54
by OKF2000
im update the table now.. here is som pic i have fundt..

menny of our old stemers has been turnt in to scahep metal in the 1960´s and the 1970´s

Posted: 13 Oct 2006 16:30
by Bjarni
ok, we got a rather large list. Now we should figure out what to do with it. I think we should start by making a time table of when each engine were invented and see if we picked it so we get peaks at say pre 1935, 1950s, and nearly nothing outside those periods (I just said some years. I didn't check if it is the case). We should aim at a somewhat evenly distritibuted.

I would start by questioning if litra A(s) is a valid candidate. It's from 1876 :wink:

Posted: 13 Oct 2006 17:33
by OKF2000
yes we need to start widt Litra A.
And as you all so sayt we need to figer out the time line for the train a leter allso ther cars..

we make so all the train form before 1922 is add two at a year so we can get dem all widt, or maby be able to start widt them at 1922, but thir will expirer soon the the one the will com dueing the game..

her is a new update of the table widt links to the pic, thire will be poste on new site..

Now i will gatter more pic of the last ones..

Edit:
Update the Tracking table. now widt HP Km/H and Wirte, allso add more pics, and add Litra MG (IC4), but see it for you selve.

Edit2:
the Link to the development page is http://ttdxd.ooas.dk

Edit3:
another update of the tracking table. will now start work on the tracking table of cars and wagons.

Edit4:
Traincars Tracking table ver. 1.00 is now up..

Edit5:
had to delete the tracking table.xls, but your can see it on the fisth pages.
and i have dawn the Litra P mail car, wort do you think, and hav can i make it betterer..

Edit6:
plase add
Projects Currently Working On | the Danish Transport set ::
and a link to the website and the topic.
to our signatur.

Btw: i am from a liltte town Kirke sonnerup as my avater allso says it is betwen Rosklide and Holbæk. and my ganddad printe DSB Locomotics in copenhangen...

Posted: 14 Oct 2006 23:38
by Lachris
OKF2000 I must say that is some pretty good tables, and website you have made :D , could you make the trains and train cars in 1 excel. Just as Trains in "ark1" and Train cars in "ark2"?

More info right from DSB: (only in danish)
http://www.dsb.dk/cs/Satellite?pagename ... 2806878480

I think you all know this but if not here is a link more :D (only in danish)
http://www.museumstog.dk/?p=materiel
http://www.sfvj.dk/materiel/index.htm

Some info on lokal trains: (dansih only)
http://www.mhvj.dk/
(eng. and dk.)
http://www.jernbaneklub.dk/

Just found out this site has some info on the trains to: just click on DK
and you have a nice list:
http://www.railfaneurope.net/list_frameset.html

Trams: just found it... hope we could use it some time :wink:
http://www.sporvejsmuseet.dk/

now I think I go to bed :roll:

Posted: 15 Oct 2006 07:45
by OKF2000
[quote=Lachris]OKF2000 I must say that is some pretty good tables, and website you have made , could you make the trains and train cars in 1 excel. Just as Trains in "ark1" and Train cars in "ark2"? [/quote]
is now do it was a good ide.

[quote=Lachris]Trams: just found it... hope we could use it some time
http://www.sporvejsmuseet.dk/ [/quote]
we have got long enonef on the train set, to start on the trams, but yes it is a good page to get infomation on trams. i dont live to long form it.

will now add some more cars. and make some of the simpler ones, my selvs.

Posted: 15 Oct 2006 10:50
by Michael24
This looks very nice OKF! :) Keep up to good work ;)

Posted: 15 Oct 2006 13:57
by OKF2000
here is some more cars, the blue version of the litra Bn and
the Litra M (netløberen). i will need pics to drew skiløberne and the fireworks one, i can not remember the name of the lest one.

P.S.
Michael if you desiet to drew a train pleas telt me wirch one(s) you will draw.

P.P.S
we still need a coder.

Posted: 15 Oct 2006 16:00
by Lachris
Some nice wagons OKF2000 :) could you just upload the tabel on your webside or update the side :wink: insted of post it every time you do some great work to it 8)

Litra Y (the pig) on the webside, shouldn't have some more red then white?

Posted: 15 Oct 2006 18:27
by Michael24
Next week is my week of from work, so I've got some time to try to figure out this trainpainting :p

Got bored today and started on a Denmark landscape. Here's the model.

Posted: 15 Oct 2006 18:32
by Michael24
OKF: The goods wagon you posted. It looked kind of strange when it was half full and emnty. Why not use the same consept as you used in the tuborg wagon? I think that would look a lot better :D


This is what i've gotten so far.. Grenaa area was killing me! :evil:

Posted: 15 Oct 2006 19:29
by Bjarni
Michael24 wrote:Got bored today and started on a Denmark landscape. Here's the model.
You *could* use the nightly build of OpenTTD and then use a heightmap of Denmark. I think I got one lying around here somewhere. I will take a look. If it's done like that, you will get the land/water correct and the hills, though I think the map I got is with too poor resolution in height to make any noteworthy hills.

Posted: 15 Oct 2006 19:35
by Patchman
You can also use SV0 Creator to convert a height map to a TTD/TTDPatch scenario file.