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Hi guys,

I think this set is a great addition to FIRS but I have a bit of a problem.
Just downloaded v0.4 of CHIPS but I only got the buffers and non track tiles. I'm missing the normal (straight) track pieces. Did I forget something or am I missing something.

*EDIT* : Never mind, just found out when you select the buffer and make your station longer than 1 tile it automatically adds the straight tiles . Works kinda confusing though.

maselbe wrote:*EDIT* : Never mind, just found out when you select the buffer and make your station longer than 1 tile it automatically adds the straight tiles . Works kinda confusing though.

In nightly versions this has been changed: the menu will now display the version without any buffers. The buffers will still be automatically placed when you build the station.
The monorail/maglev issue has been fixed, and they're now in there own category.

Railwaymodeler wrote:May I suggest a non-track tile 'bumper' that is just the track leading off into the dirt or gravel? Many light industry sidings don't have a real bumper - instead just wheel chocks (Not likely to be visible in the game) and then just end in dirt or gravel.

This is a very nice suggestion, however I'm not sure if this is possible.

Yexo wrote:

Railwaymodeler wrote:May I suggest a non-track tile 'bumper' that is just the track leading off into the dirt or gravel? Many light industry sidings don't have a real bumper - instead just wheel chocks (Not likely to be visible in the game) and then just end in dirt or gravel.

This is a very nice suggestion, however I'm not sure if this is possible.

Surely instead of drawing a seperate buffer tile like ISR or whatever else.. just draw no buffer.. just rails that fade into the base tile?

That is what I was thinking, Sam. If I weren't so busy, I would have a try at drawing it.

The problem is that if you want it to work also with railtype newgrfs you can't draw any part of the rails. The only thing that can be done is take the normal straight rails and draw an overlay.

I have used this set in my recent game where I was going for a tiny little bit of eyecandy, and I love it
What I'm missing in this set and I'd like to suggest for the next release, is a kind of road-over-the-tracks tile, like in ISR. I've used that in my game, but unfortunately the ground tiles do not match.
Also I think you can make it look better than the one in ISR


edit: haha, I didn't even notice that before: If you look carefully at the top left of the screen you can see that the non track tiles have catenary. May want to disable that, if possible?

Roujin wrote:May want to disable that, if possible?

tried to build non erail stations?

Ammler wrote:

Roujin wrote:May want to disable that, if possible?

tried to build non erail stations?

Disabling catenary should be possible using properties 11 and 14.

That's a lot nicer than having to switch railtypes, IMO.

CHIPS 0.5 releasified. It's on the banana-machine, or here: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/chips/releases/

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Changes in 0.5
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Move all stations to a new menu category 'CHIPS stations'
Don't display any buffers in the build stations gui preview
Add Concourse tile for passenger stations
Graphics for dock show waves
Fix Monorail / Maglev issues
Fix incorrect display of catenary on non-track tiles

Now all the default stations and buffers (and those from other sets which didn't provide a proper category) now all show up under CHIPS. Not that I'm complaining. It works for me. Just didn't know if you had intended that.

kamnet wrote:Now all the default stations and buffers (and those from other sets which didn't provide a proper category) now all show up under CHIPS. Not that I'm complaining. It works for me. Just didn't know if you had intended that.

That's not intended. Could you please upload a savegame that reproduces this behavior?

Yexo wrote:

kamnet wrote:Now all the default stations and buffers (and those from other sets which didn't provide a proper category) now all show up under CHIPS. Not that I'm complaining. It works for me. Just didn't know if you had intended that.

That's not intended. Could you please upload a savegame that reproduces this behavior?

Provided.

Can you also reproduce the problem in clean trunk / latest stable? I don't fancy debugging problems that might happen due to some patchpack.

Sheesh, make me do all the work whydontcha, Mr. Picky! Fine I'll go install 1.1.0, even though I never play stable

I'm assuming this problem is, in part, occurring because of a limited number of slots for NewGRFs and where CHIPS is loaded. In this savegame CHIPS still takes over the top slot (even though it's loaded last), the default stations and a bunch of other stations are now moved in, and I can't actually find CHIPS on the list or in any of the tiles.

I am going to reply but please in the future post in the other thread first.
Most likely you have succesfully exceeded the (extended) 64 station slots limit. I can extend the limit but this is not the place to discuss ...
I have not (yet) tested this issue in recent clean trunk but if my memory serves me well the same would happen if you exceed the 32 slots limit there.

Also if you move CHIPS up in the list some other station GRF will be added at the top if you do not remove some ...

Sheesh, make me do all the work whydontcha, Mr. Picky! Fine I'll go install 1.1.0, even though I never play stable

You can not expect the Devs or anyone else for that matter to search 45000+ lines to search for 1 value I changed somewhere ...
As explained above, in trunk you will run in this issue way faster.


ps:
To whoever can and wants to,
feel free to move the last few post to my patchpak thread ... again.

There is a limit of 32 station classes. All stations belonging to station classes that didn't fit in that limit of 32 classes will end up in the "default stations" class. The last NewGRF in the list with a station in that class will end up overwriting the name of that class. This has nothing to do with CHIPS but rather with the amount of station newgrfs you've loaded.

kamnet wrote:Sheesh, make me do all the work whydontcha, Mr. Picky! Fine I'll go install 1.1.0, even though I never play stable

I couldn't load your savegame in trunk. Since you didn't mention which patch or patchpack you use I had no way to load your savegame. I've tried to reproduce the problem but didn't manage to do that (due to not being able to see the list of newgrfs, I didn't guess it had to do with the amount of station newgrfs. So in this case I wasn't able to do more. Anyway, thanks for taking the effort of creating a clean savegame

ChillCore wrote:I am going to reply but please in the future post in the other thread first. Most likely you have succesfully exceeded the (extended) 64 station slots limit. I can extend the limit but this is not the place to discuss ...

Yexo wrote:There is a limit of 32 station classes. All stations belonging to station classes that didn't fit in that limit of 32 classes will end up in the "default stations" class.

Yes, I forgot that this was part of a patch pack and not the game itself until Yexo mentioned clean trunk. Again, I'm spoiled.

ChillCore wrote:You can not expect the Devs or anyone else for that matter to search 45000+ lines to search for 1 value I changed

WOT?? LULZ!

Yexo wrote:So in this case I wasn't able to do more. Anyway, thanks for taking the effort of creating a clean savegame

It was no effort, I was just being silly. Thank YOU for taking the time to look at it and stick around hacking on my favorite game!

CHIPS 0.6.0 is now on Bananas, or http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/chips/releases/

*Changelog for 0.6.0*

Add new menu category 'CHIPS tiles' and move some tiles to it
Cargo graphics for:
- metal / steel
- milk
- fruit / fruit & vegetables
Improved graphics for Parcels Office
Added four new buildings:
- Small Wooden Hut
- Booking Office
- Small Warehouse
- Boiler House and Offices
Removed Clay Platforms (deprecated in v0.4)
Improved the readme.txt for in-game viewing

May I wish OpenGFX-graphics for the mud platforms? Even the Small Wooden Hut has them.

e: I'd like to see snow-awareness some day.

I agree. The majority of OTTD players these days have only the openGFX graphics because they don't own the original TTD graphics, and some of us prefer OpenGFX over the TTD graphics.