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Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 20 Jan 2009 13:08
by Hypolite
Train 5 is 25 seconds late ! :o

Someone will be sacked for that :twisted:

Congratulations on making right timetables !

Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 20 Jan 2009 13:27
by Artamir
Hypolite wrote:Train 5 is 25 seconds late ! :o
This is the result of rounding down time between stations. No train will be late more than 2 minutes. They are running perfectly :mrgreen:
Thanks a lot :D

PD. Train 5 is 25 seconds advanced hahaha, no train will be run more than 1 minute advanced too :)

Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 20 Jan 2009 15:46
by SHADOW-XIII
most post here to keep an eye on this topic :)

and seriously, I wonder how it's gonna work with breakdowns on :twisted:

Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 20 Jan 2009 18:38
by Artamir
SHADOW-XIII wrote:most post here to keep an eye on this topic :)

and seriously, I wonder how it's gonna work with breakdowns on :twisted:
Only I should have putting the order of going to depot when train arrives to his destination I think :]
But I don't like breakdowns :?
Maybe, I will try your purpose :wink: but I have to do some experiments with fiability because i have never played with breakdowns before 8)

Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 20 Jan 2009 21:10
by Artamir
I have tried some minutes ago using breakdowns with a train with special route that have the order "to depot" 2 times/24h.
There are 2 problems:
1- I use 255 day lenght, train rarely have breakdowns. (My game have 2 (real) hours testing and it haven't got any breakdown...)
2- If I use 1 day lenght, train have too much breakdowns, 7 breakdowns i had in less than 4 (game) hours!!!! It is too unrealistic and f*****!
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("Revisió a Blanes Cotxeres" (Catalan) means: "Service at Blanes Depots")

Maybe, the only way is putting less than 255 day lengh and more than 1 day lenght (?) hahaha

Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 20 Jan 2009 22:42
by ivanfurlanis
Very impressing. For sure you have a lot of patience!

Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 21 Jan 2009 12:20
by Artamir
Thanks for your comments.
I will adding more trains and building more lines now that I have finished the exams 8) (I'll go out too, of course haha)
Maybe I will investigate more about breakdowns before continuing my savegame :]

And here is a shot of the nearest city from home, is on working now, but It will be beatiful! (I live in Cabrera de Mar :D )
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Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 21 Jan 2009 14:13
by Hypolite
The road layout is a little bit uncommon, but so far it's promising, I like the depot :)

For the road junction layout, I would suggest the following :
Suggested junction layout
Suggested junction layout
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Less turns, less slopes, added realism :D

Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 21 Jan 2009 14:26
by Artamir
Yes, I know. But the highway that I tried to represent is this:
http://maps.google.es/maps?f=q&source=s ... 6&t=h&z=17
Mmmmh, very difficult hehehe. And I am not a road expert haha

Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 21 Jan 2009 15:27
by Hypolite
I now see your point clearer.

Since you can't build roads diagonally, it's impossible to accurately scale down this real junction into OTTD. Either you get rid of one direction (that would be NW if directions are the same in Google Maps and OTTD) or you keep 4 ways but simplified as I suggest.

Or you can keep your original junction, of course, it would remain highly unrealistic and inefficient, but that's up to you, after all :))

Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 22 Jan 2009 10:17
by Artamir
It is coming more clearer 8)
I added breakdowns with a very very low chance (You have to think that there are now ONLY 12 trains running, is logical that there aren't still breakdowns, but when I will have 100 trains... hehe). Every breakdown do an aproximate 6 minutes delay that train recovers in a few time.
Every train does a maintenance stop 1 time/24h.

Trains waiting for new orders in L'Hospitalet del Llobregat and 1 train destination Molins the Rei (Platform 3)
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Aproximated schedules and orders of each train, with trains that are now running.
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Train going to Mataró Depots when a train arriving from Maçanet-Massanes is waiting for continuing destination Hospitalet
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Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 22 Jan 2009 10:50
by Artamir
And no less important: Can Tunis. Freight Station and big parking station for trains.
http://maps.google.es/maps?f=q&source=s ... 4&t=h&z=15
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And the first poor train that had a breakdown :(
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Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 23 Jan 2009 13:33
by Hypolite
You had to send me your whole OTTD folder, but at least I could finally see your savegame working properly.

And it's just amazing ! Trains with 90 orders, all timetabled, nice stations, I was like a child in front of a big railway model, all trains flowing smoothly, making big stops at terminus, taking the right track at stations, provinding their destination...

Congratulations, this is fully realistic as you said :bow:

Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 23 Jan 2009 16:05
by Artamir
Thanks so much :oops:
If someone wants the folder, It needs 54mb with all grfs, etc... I don't know how to upload it, but if someone wants it only pm me :)
This things are watched better with movement :mrgreen:

Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 24 Jan 2009 18:22
by Artamir
R1 and R10 finished.

Newest savegame version (24-1-09):
A.D.I.F. Breakdowns 5.sav
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Enjoy it :D

If you wanna know the aproximated real frecuences or journey time only you have to: (game time)/3

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-Trains between Molins de Rei-Mataró, Hospitalet-Mataró, Hospitalet-Calella, Hospitalet-Arenys de Mar, Molins de Rei-Arenys de Mar, Hospitalet-Blanes and Hospitalet-Maçanet/Massanes.
-Very high frecuences (15 virtual min at Rush Hour)
-New Civia trains running

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-Trains between Aeroport-Estació de França
-One train every 1h 30min (virtual, and real life 30 min)
-New Civia trains running

Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 25 Jan 2009 12:12
by Artamir
New important modifications:
-Orders improved reducing delays without related with breakdowns (slow loading, shared railines... Now breakdowns are 99% responsible of delays) and improving passengers loading/unloading at important stations.
-Mataró roads finished.
-Mataró bus line without timetables: only works transfering passengers (It will have timetables and more stops too)
A.D.I.F. Breakdowns v1.01.sav
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(TTD folder: http://www.megaupload.com/es/?d=IJIIOSS6)

Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 26 Jan 2009 10:08
by Silverx50
had a look at it and I have to say it's pretty impressive stuff you've done up till now.
how far do you plan to go with this game?

Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 26 Jan 2009 12:38
by Artamir
Silverx50 wrote:had a look at it and I have to say it's pretty impressive stuff you've done up till now.
how far do you plan to go with this game?
Now my plans are finishing all commuter and regional railines 8)
Maybe I will do Long distance railines too. But only I'll do Renfe railines, not FGC or Metro.

Now i'm building all R2 infraestructures and his timetables. I'll post the new savegame when it will be finished :wink:

Some pics of a promising railine with very impressive stations and infraestructures. And there is not all of this railine, it will have a lot of trains running, more than R1.

Vilanova i la Geltrú station and Depots
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St Vicenç de Calders-Comarruga station.
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*Platforms 7, 8 and 9 are for parking and stopping freight trains before continuing his travel, basically

Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 26 Jan 2009 15:35
by Benny
Wow, impressive.
It is very cool when trains go to sidings before entering next day's schedule. 8)

Re: Full Realistic Catalonia map + 24h Realistic Timetables

Posted: 28 Jan 2009 17:25
by Artamir
With some problems, finally I finished R2 south's schedules. Now there aren't all trains running, Likewise I update it now.

New infraestructures:
-All R2 infraestructures finished.
-Regional railine St Vicenç de Calders-Reus finished

New trains
-All basic trains "St Vicenç<>St Andreu Comtal" running (There is 1 train every 1.30h for each direction)
-Some basic trains "Vilanova<>St Celoni" running (There will be 1 train every 1.30h for each direction)
-Some regional trains Reus<>Barcelona running
-2 Provisionals "Euromed" (for testing schedules) running They only do the trip between Tarragona<>Barcelona

Regional lines:
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Commuter lines:
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Image<-In this page is the new R2 organization during High speed works. :|
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New savegame (you need the new folder):
A.D.I.F. Breakdowns v1.02a.sav
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New folder: http://www.megaupload.com/es/?d=P253CIRI


And a very cute pic from Vilanova i la Geltrú of four UT447 sleeping in their depots :mrgreen:
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