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Posted: 19 Jul 2003 06:36
by Emeric Pro
syndrome wrote::?: Will any of ya include some of those small but fast jets: like LearJet I guess. It would be nice to have a small charter service :D
I am planning to make a small modern propeller plane (don't know which one exactly yet, maybe ATR72)
syndrome wrote: BTW, I think that the patch speeds are just a bit too high. Each plane moves like it's a Concorde or sumthin.
I'm working on a 140 km/h plane... It does not look fast.

Posted: 19 Jul 2003 07:19
by syndrome
spaceman-spiff wrote:A percentage perhaps, now it's on/off
Yes, that was the whole idea.. Thx for reading my mind.
However, the percentage is not necessary. I was rather thinking of a multiplier (or in this case: a divider). Something like this:

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ttdpatch -YP 1 // realistic speed
   ...   -YP 2 // half speed
   ...   -YP 4 // quarter speed
   etc.
spaceman-spiff wrote:But off-course you can use TTDalter for those supersonic speeds
That one I didn't understand... Why on Earth one wants supersonic velocities that make those airfields seem like helipads? Well, again, I guess there's an entire queue line for such visual experiences :)
Never mind.

:?: One more thing: what do you do in order to make a helicopter (besides the grf encoding)? From what I learned, it uses two sprites: 1) the fuselace and 2) the animated ellise (hope this is the right word :oops:). I suppose there's a flag of some kind which tells the engine whether the aircraft is VTOL or not. Is there a way to replace this animated part, leaving the original helicopters unchanged, or perhaps to make a helicopter (or similar aircraft) without one? Tell me if I ask too much :mrgreen:

Posted: 19 Jul 2003 08:28
by Emeric Pro
syndrome wrote:Is there a way to replace this animated part, leaving the original helicopters unchanged, or perhaps to make a helicopter (or similar aircraft) without one? Tell me if I ask too much :mrgreen:
it's possible to change it as all other sprites, but not doing different ones (which would be cool for giant helicopters or double-rotor ones)
when ttdx is told "aircraft xx is an helicopter" it just adds that sprite onto it (it makes stupid-looking aircrafts when you make a boeing become an helicopter :lol: ) so it's not possible to have helicopters without helice (except if a patch is done for it :?: )


edit: i found a perfect gif for designing the Airbus A380 (will replace dinger 200, id 1F) look, it shows every useful position:

edit2: i only have to put transparent color around each part of the gif and resize it... that's where i missed something i just did a ridiculously small 555-passengers aircraft... I think it will be ready tonight

Posted: 19 Jul 2003 09:05
by Dinges
I will have a page available soon where you can reserve the ones you wan't to use, I will PM you the login info when it is ready.

It will be here: http://ttdgraphics.cjb.net/planeset/planelist.php (Currently not available)

And for helicopters: no, not possible, but you can remove the rotor if you wan't.

Posted: 19 Jul 2003 10:55
by spaceman-spiff
Dinges wrote:And for helicopters: no, not possible, but you can remove the rotor if you wan't.
With TTDalter I think :oops:

Posted: 19 Jul 2003 11:04
by Dinges
spaceman-spiff wrote:
Dinges wrote:And for helicopters: no, not possible, but you can remove the rotor if you wan't.
With TTDalter I think :oops:
Nope, remove the sprites for it. It may be possible to make double rotors too! Will try it soon

Posted: 19 Jul 2003 11:08
by spaceman-spiff
Dinges wrote:Nope, remove the sprites for it. It may be possible to make double rotors too! Will try it soon
Aha, remove the sprites, but not the functionality (morevehicles !!!)

Posted: 19 Jul 2003 12:01
by Dinges
What do you think? http://ttdgraphics.cjb.net/planeset/planelist.php

Emeric Pro, tell me which Id's you need and I'll reserve that Id for you.

And is it okay that I take over the planes on your site and change their livery :?:

Posted: 19 Jul 2003 12:22
by SHADOW-XIII
there is only 27 ID's ?? IMO there are more, maybe some empty, unknown and unused in TTD

Posted: 19 Jul 2003 12:25
by Dinges
SHADOW-XIII wrote:there is only 27 ID's ?? IMO there are more, maybe some empty, unknown and unused in TTD
40 exactly... it are HEX #

And I wished there were more :!:, we could add planes instead off replacing!

And Emeric Pro shall I put your Airbus 380 on ID 14 :?:

Posted: 19 Jul 2003 14:23
by Hyronymus
Maybe the patch can create a purge-function: I assume that the Junckers JU52 will not be in the air by 2000 anymore. Say the JU52 has ID#1 (how random). By purging (cleaning of obsolete data) the savedata you would be allowed to introduce a new airplane with ID#1 because the previous ID#1 lost its function.

Posted: 19 Jul 2003 14:42
by Dinges
Hyronymus wrote:Maybe the patch can create a purge-function: I assume that the Junckers JU52 will not be in the air by 2000 anymore. Say the JU52 has ID#1 (how random). By purging (cleaning of obsolete data) the savedata you would be allowed to introduce a new airplane with ID#1 because the previous ID#1 lost its function.
ask Josef, but I think it is impossible, and I placed some information on the concorde on my site...

Posted: 19 Jul 2003 17:36
by Emeric Pro
Dinges wrote:What do you think? http://ttdgraphics.cjb.net/planeset/planelist.php

Emeric Pro, tell me which Id's you need and I'll reserve that Id for you.

And is it okay that I take over the planes on your site and change their livery :?:
*I don't know yet, I thought we could just change data of interesting planes (some have good design (eg JU52), but others have false ones used by different planes (eg Caravelle)
I have at least 6 plans of truely new planes (2 oldies, 2 cargo planes, 2 modern passengers ones)

*Yes you can of course, also what do you think should be done :
- Planes fully colored in player's color (I don't think so)
- Planes with only "rear rudder" (dunno exact english word) colored in players color
- Planes keeping a real livery from a real company
(later) wrote: And Emeric Pro shall I put your Airbus 380 on ID 14
ID 14 ? it's the first free one you've got? I thought we could put it instead of one which will be deleted (a not real one, such as dinger 200)

edit: seen your plane list. ok that seems ok like this.

Posted: 19 Jul 2003 18:54
by Dinges
Plugged your 380 in... at 14

And I thought it doesn't matter which ID's I use becouse all plane graphics are getting replaced.

If you wan't more ID's feel freee to contact me...