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Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 02 Aug 2007 00:20
by OzTrans
CPCNMAN007 wrote:To right is the Pierre-Laporte Bridge and to left is the Quebec Bridge.
Thank you, I shall look at both of them, as the Quebec Bridge looks rather interesting, we may just have to build it a bit stronger. Pierre-Laporte and the Golden Gate may become one and the same.

Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 02 Aug 2007 00:42
by CPCNMAN007
OzTransLtd wrote:
CPCNMAN007 wrote:To right is the Pierre-Laporte Bridge and to left is the Quebec Bridge.
Thank you, I shall look at both of them, as the Quebec Bridge looks rather interesting, we may just have to build it a bit stronger. Pierre-Laporte and the Golden Gate may become one and the same.
Your welcome :wink:

Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 02 Aug 2007 01:12
by CPCNMAN007
Here the road bridge Jacque Cartier

http://latourfl.com/montreal2/montreal2-Images/13.jpg

Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 02 Aug 2007 01:31
by DaleStan
*ahem*ahem* You're table breaking. Stop it.

Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 02 Aug 2007 21:10
by OzTrans
I've updated the diagram of the Confederation Bridge (previous page); i.e. modified the spans to have them more rounded and less high. Also, for the more technically minded and not to confuse them, I added the ramps (one of each). BTW, the BLn stands for bridge length and does not include the ramps.

Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 02 Aug 2007 21:21
by wallyweb
Those profiles look good. I can barely wait to see the sprites. 8)

Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 04 Aug 2007 16:15
by krtaylor
This looks promising. Would you want to have the GRF posted on the US set page when it's finished?

Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 04 Aug 2007 21:55
by OzTrans
krtaylor wrote:Would you want to have the GRF posted on the US set page when it's finished?
Why not, although it is very early to think about that. There is still a long road ahead of us ...

Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 04 Aug 2007 23:37
by krtaylor
Well, thanks to the Long Bridges patch, it may be a very long road... :shock: :lol:

Shouldn't be TOO long, after all, there is a very limited number of bridges allowed in the game, right?

Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 07 Aug 2007 05:20
by OzTrans
krtaylor wrote: ... it may be a very long road ... after all, there is a very limited number of bridges allowed in the game, right?
... or a bridge too far ... we have a maximum of 11 bridges (13 in OpenTTD), but we are going to have rail, monorail, maglev and narrow gauge as well as road (2 generations) to consider. That means about 66 to 78 bridges to draw.

Anyway, here is another one, a replacement bridge set for the Steel Girder Bridge ...

Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 07 Aug 2007 13:30
by MeusH
This bridge looks certainly better than original, but why its maximum length can't be 1 (3 tiles)?
Someone in OpenTTD section (I think) pointed that there's need for short and fast bridges

Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 07 Aug 2007 19:48
by OzTrans
MeusH wrote:This bridge looks certainly better than original, but why its maximum length can't be 1 ...
Depending how a bridge is implemented, certain lengths have to be excluded, otherwise they don't look good. This one cannot have a length of one (which also excludes a length of 0); unless I make the ends of the rail bridge vertical, which is still an option. But we will have at least 1 bridge, that has no speedlimit (or a very high max) and can be of any length; the simple flat concrete.

Here is another one, the Quebec Bridge ...

Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 11 Aug 2007 23:39
by OzTrans
It's been a while ... but here is another one, replacement for the wooden bridge ...

Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 12 Aug 2007 00:53
by maquinista
This is other covered bridge, released in 2004 by Shawn_ardies:
http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php? ... red+bridge
But it only allows... 20 mph. :? It has some updates.

Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 12 Aug 2007 22:17
by OzTrans
maquinista wrote:This is other covered bridge, ...
I think we can do better than that ...

Here is the next one, the concrete bridge with steel safety railings ...

Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 13 Aug 2007 18:04
by SHADOW-XIII
do we really need unlimited length bridges ?

Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 13 Aug 2007 18:59
by wallyweb
SHADOW-XIII wrote:do we really need unlimited length bridges ?
Yes!

Some of my scenarios involve wide expanses of water.

Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 13 Aug 2007 20:27
by OzTrans
SHADOW-XIII wrote:Do we really need unlimited length bridges ?
I don't, I will always limit a bridge to about 10 tiles, so that I can build signals. But there are players who want this sort of thing. BTW, there is still a limit of 255 tiles, not an issue in TTDPatch, but in OpenTTD and large maps.

Once a bridge is longer than 7 tiles, length is not really an issue, it can be of any length then. Although your rail networks aren't very efficient with very long bridges as there aren't any signals [yet].

A question, what should cost more ? Building a bridge or raising the land and lay track on a dam.

Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 13 Aug 2007 20:37
by FooBar
OzTransLtd wrote:A question, what should cost more ? Building a bridge or raising the land and lay track on a dam.
From most expensive to least expensive:
- Building a dam in the water (and put the tracks on it)
- Building a high dam on land (i.e. raising land more than one level).
- Bridge.
- Dam on land one level up.

All including tracks.

Re: North American Bridges Set [under development]

Posted: 13 Aug 2007 20:53
by Ameecher
I would say that raising the land should be more expensive however, the bridge should also be quite expensive, not the ridiculously cheap prices compared to raising of the land that there is currently.