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Posted: 05 Jun 2007 10:42
by DanMacK
Well, in North America, there were a large number of local stretecar/tram lines that hauled coal and such around their respective cities. The problem here, is what's the difference between a "tram" and a "Train" as Michael pointed out. I've got big interurban cars as well as a steeplecab electric in the Canset and North American Renewal Set. I also have 3 types of streetcar in another set. That said, should I add freight cars and a steeplecab into the tram set, or keep them as interurban rail vehicles?

Coal, goods, oil, etc would normally be transported in standard freight cars and pulled by a locomotive. I'm not sure how well that would translate into a tram setting. That said, I think a box motor style streetcar with trailer could be used for mail, goods, food, gold, and valuables.

It's an idea worth pursuing, and I look forward to your work m3henry

Posted: 05 Jun 2007 10:48
by Ameecher
Well this is all interesting stuff to me, I'll have to go and look some of this stuff up.

Posted: 05 Jun 2007 12:47
by Dave
Hyronymus wrote:
michael blunck wrote:Yes, I remembered but didn“t find your post in a hurry. Nevertheless, I found a couple of other "freight trams" threads. 8)

regards
Michael
You mean m3henry didn't use the search function? Hmm, I'll have to take it up with Owen how we deal with that :roll: .
Difference being that Henry wants to start his own set.

Posted: 05 Jun 2007 14:15
by SkeedR
If you want m3henry i can setup a simple tracking table for you

Posted: 05 Jun 2007 16:26
by m3henry
oooh yes please weirdy!
now should we have ttd style trams or non ttd?

I think most cargoes should be supported but the coal, mail, food, goods should come first.

tram 1:

Posted: 05 Jun 2007 17:39
by Griff
Now why does that look like two coal trucks backed onto each other.

Posted: 05 Jun 2007 17:56
by m4rek
because its 2 coal trucks backed into a coal wagon...

Posted: 05 Jun 2007 18:07
by Griff
So then..its not a tram at all.

Posted: 05 Jun 2007 18:20
by knedle
I think you should create something that looks more like train, also with smaller wagons...

Posted: 05 Jun 2007 18:23
by m3henry
well it is a future tram, and it is supposed to go at 50mph.

Posted: 05 Jun 2007 18:25
by m4rek
that doesn't change the fact that its just a coal wagon sandwiched between two coal trucks...

come on m3henry, you can do better than this!

Posted: 05 Jun 2007 18:28
by EirikhO
Please, he is just making some trams that some of us want. And who said you have to download them?

m3henry: Oil trams? :D

Posted: 05 Jun 2007 18:37
by m3henry
oil, that would be interesting

Posted: 05 Jun 2007 18:46
by m4rek
eirikho wrote:Please, he is just making some trams that some of us want.
Well, considering he hasn't actually done that much... He has taken 2 vehicles in the original TTD and stuck them end to end.

I am aware that m3henry has the ability to draw quality graphics, this might be a good time to employ them.

And m3henry, would you like me to draw some cargo trams for this set?

regards,
Islacrusez

Posted: 05 Jun 2007 18:49
by m3henry
that would be nice
but this is currently something that will fit in with TTD.
so here is a liquids tram

Posted: 05 Jun 2007 18:52
by m4rek
So, are we going to go with the quick fix of mix'n'match TTD graphics until we actually draw something?

Works for me... While you have fun with those, I'm going to draw something.

regards,
Islacrusez

Posted: 05 Jun 2007 18:56
by EirikhO
M4rek wrote:So, are we going to go with the quick fix of mix'n'match TTD graphics until we actually draw something?
Well, you could call it temp-GRFs?

Posted: 05 Jun 2007 19:16
by m3henry
eirikho wrote:Well, you could call it temp-GRFs?
for now its getting something simple into the game, and doesnt look too bad, then it can evolve into a hand drawn one.

Posted: 05 Jun 2007 19:23
by EirikhO
m3henry wrote:Image
Me likes :D

Posted: 05 Jun 2007 20:13
by m4rek
Ok, concept tram being unveiled here:

A dirty M4S HGRTV32, for hauling heavy goods like coal (seen here with coal wagons, empty, half full and full)

Regards, Islacrusez