Music and sound

Jan · Post by **Jan** » 07 Feb 2003 15:26

Omnislash wrote:

Its only a format. I doubt you do.

Yea, but "Fraunhofer" own the patent.

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 07 Feb 2003 19:51

yep ... but can't we use maybe some ActiveX module or other free programs to play it???

Jan · Post by **Jan** » 08 Feb 2003 00:29

If they own the patent, then you have to have a license. And that cost money!

Omnislash · Post by **Omnislash** » 08 Feb 2003 00:45

Jan wrote:Omnislash wrote:
Its only a format. I doubt you do.
Yea, but "Fraunhofer" own the patent.

I didn't know that

Post by **orudge** » 08 Feb 2003 12:27

There was a load of stuff about that on the Internet recently (few months ago). However, it's free for open source projects, or something. I prefer Ogg Vorbis anyway - higher quality and patent-free.

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 08 Feb 2003 12:28

orudge wrote:There was a load of stuff about that on the Internet recently (few months ago). However, it's free for open source projects, or something. I prefer Ogg Vorbis anyway - higher quality and patent-free.

OK .. but why should add to TT2 a tool (free) which allows users to convert MP3 to OGG (or other format)

Paranoid Android · Post by **Paranoid Android** » 08 Feb 2003 13:25

Who's actually going to write the music? What style will it be?

Arathorn · Post by **Arathorn** » 08 Feb 2003 13:33

A little the same style as in TTD, and i also like the music in the Trains & Trucks Tycoon Demo.

Paranoid Android · Post by **Paranoid Android** » 08 Feb 2003 14:21

I could give it a shot.

Post by **orudge** » 09 Feb 2003 00:04

[Off Topic]

SHADOW-XIII wrote:OK .. but why should add to TT2 a tool (free) which allows users to convert MP3 to OGG (or other format)

No no no no, don't convert lossy formats to lossy formats - you'll just lose quality! Supporting MP3 shouldn't really be a problem anyway.

Hyronymus · Post by **Hyronymus** » 09 Feb 2003 00:23

I don't see a legal problem with using MP3. Indeed, Frauenhofer Institute developped the best codec for several MP3 qualities, but you can download those codecs for free. Even if that isn't the case, other software developpers must have MP3 codecs too. I think that MP3 is the best choice. When people grow weary of the games' music, they can add their own MP3 for instance. Of course that's not a key issue, but it is something "generous" to the player.

Paranoid Android · Post by **Paranoid Android** » 09 Feb 2003 15:54

How about instead of the same music style as in TTD we go for something totally new? How about some ambient techno-rock?

Arathorn · Post by **Arathorn** » 09 Feb 2003 16:07

Or some lounge, like Saint Germain.

mp3Pro · Post by **mp3Pro** » 09 Feb 2003 16:18

I think for music you should go with mp3 and allow loading .m3u playlists

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 09 Feb 2003 16:54

This would be great ... and also PLS lists

Paranoid Android · Post by **Paranoid Android** » 09 Feb 2003 21:17

Have a listen to this. I wrote it to be quite repetitive - you don't want the music to distract you away from the game (I usually die in an Operation Flashpoint mission I made because the old air-guitar comes out)

SHADOW-XIII · Post by **SHADOW-XIII** » 09 Feb 2003 21:58

Tombe wrote:Have a listen to this. I wrote it to be quite repetitive - you don't want the music to distract you away from the game (I usually die in an Operation Flashpoint mission I made because the old air-guitar comes out)

Can you save it in other format ?? I cannot open it !! it says I need any key licence .. or something like this .. and it opens a microsoft page

SGWebmaster · Post by **SGWebmaster** » 09 Feb 2003 22:02

The patent thing sounds very much like with JPEG images. I know that any software that saves as JPEG must pay a royalty but I'm not sure about reading them. If anyone can find out what the laws are over this format, presumably they apply to MP3 as well

Arathorn · Post by **Arathorn** » 09 Feb 2003 22:04

Maybe we can make a Winamp plug-in that works with TT2. You don't have to pay anything for plug-ins, and Winamp pays the royaltie (if there is any).

Post by **orudge** » 10 Feb 2003 00:22

Eh? A Winamp plug-in for TT2? Erm... I don't understand that. It would be pointless anyway. Besides, we can use MP3 anyway - we won't have to pay a royalty, as it's only a free project and I haven't heard of that happening in the past. And if it did happen - who would they go to? Me? Rein? Adam? Someone else?

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