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Posted: 17 Mar 2006 16:16
by nguwland
A interesting site, if you like dutch busses is http://www.openbaarvervoerinboskoop.nl, If you're Dutch, it shows itself, else, in the upper (horizontal) menu choose "Busfoto's". Then a menu shows up with all ducht bus-operators. Choose a operator, and if nessecairy a bus number, and enjoy the pictures.

By the way, Are there any other artists interested in creating a Dutch busses set?

Posted: 17 Mar 2006 19:44
by George
nguwland wrote:I modified some things, replaced the wheels, set the lightfall on all windows the same, and added shade, (made the sides out of the sun darker), or did you (george) mean that I should add shades at the details?
Yes, I meant that you should add many details with shading. If you want, I can make one demo fixing for you, but then yous hould promice, that you willfix your first two models unless I say, that you've fixed all the details :mrgreen:
nguwland wrote:I'll be working on the diagonal view, and will finish this one before i start about a new bus. Of course is constructive criticism apriciated.
I supposed that you'd fix all the marked places :?

Posted: 19 Mar 2006 09:32
by Caelan
well i am interested in the bus set but i dont think i will be drawing any of them soon. Perhaps some day...

Posted: 19 Mar 2006 12:56
by nguwland
I've changed the shading, and started about the diagonal view, but I thought that the bus was to wide, so I redused the width by 1 pixel, but now it looks to narrow. So Here you see the two views, the wide and the narrow one. Wich one do you suggest I should continue with?

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Posted: 19 Mar 2006 16:14
by George
nguwland wrote:I've changed the shading, and started about the diagonal view, but I thought that the bus was to wide, so I redused the width by 1 pixel, but now it looks to narrow. So Here you see the two views, the wide and the narrow one. Wich one do you suggest I should continue with?
I suggest to use 6-th pixel as the corner, that looks like 5.5px wide bus. Also, make a light line above. Fix the length. So, summury - improve the wide version

Posted: 19 Mar 2006 17:33
by SAC
Cool with Den Oudsten buses as an addition to all the rest we have! Especially since I also have driven those! Good buses in fact :P

Posted: 19 Mar 2006 21:37
by nguwland
SAC wrote:Cool with Den Oudsten buses as an addition to all the rest we have! Especially since I also have driven those! Good buses in fact :P
Yep, It's a shame Den Oudsten is bankrupt.

Posted: 19 Mar 2006 21:38
by nguwland
George wrote:I suggest to use 6-th pixel as the corner, that looks like 5.5px wide bus. Also, make a light line above. Fix the length. So, summury - improve the wide version
Okay, I'll be working at it.

Posted: 19 Mar 2006 22:00
by SAC
nguwland wrote:
SAC wrote:Cool with Den Oudsten buses as an addition to all the rest we have! Especially since I also have driven those! Good buses in fact :P
Yep, It's a shame Den Oudsten is bankrupt.
They are? I thought they left Europe for the American market a couple of years ago?

A bit OT, I know! :P

Posted: 20 Mar 2006 16:49
by nguwland
SAC wrote:
They are? I thought they left Europe for the American market a couple of years ago?

A bit OT, I know! :P
That could be, the dutch division is shut down, unfortunately

Posted: 20 Mar 2006 20:14
by nguwland
George wrote:I suggest to use 6-th pixel as the corner, that looks like 5.5px wide bus. Also, make a light line above. Fix the length. So, summury - improve the wide version
Thanx a lot George, you're template helped me a big lot (is this correct english :roll: )

Posted: 21 Mar 2006 08:07
by Purno
nguwland wrote:Thanx a lot George, you're template helped me a big lot (is this correct english :roll: )
dunno about "big lot", but "you're" should be "your" in this case. ( "you're" would mean "you are")

And I'm happy to see someone drawing Dutch bussies :]

Posted: 21 Mar 2006 18:21
by nguwland
As first I'll finish the Den Oudsten Bus, but if there are any other interested, I had a list in mind for a Dutch busses set. If you would like to draw one of them, please reply. preferred livery is connexxion, but other liveries are welcome as well (please use a real existing livery). And if you want to draw something not on this list, additions are welcome

Den Oudsten Standaard streekbus (also articulated versions)
Den Oudsten B88 (also articulated versions)
Den Oudsten B88 10m version (for the cities of Delft & Gouda)

MAN Lions' city
Man Viabus

Berkhof Ambassador
Berkhof Premier

Mercedes Benz Integro
Mercedes Benz Citaro (also articulated version)
Mercedes Benz O405 (also articulated version)
Mercedes Benz Sprinter (Buurtbus and delivery versions)

Van Hool A300 (old and new look)
Van Hool AG300
Van Hool AGG300

IF you want to draw some of these, but you are having difficulty finding information about them, you can send an e-mail to me.
I'll try to draw as many of these as I can, but help is always welcome.

Posted: 21 Mar 2006 18:35
by Hyronymus
How about old(er) busses? Kromhout-Verheul, ARM-Pennock, Hainje (for those who live in a big Dutch city: they made 3 generations of 'Standaardbus' for city bus services).

Posted: 21 Mar 2006 19:03
by nguwland
Older busses are welcome of course. Perhaps something like the T-ford could be nice to, as well as taxi's.

Posted: 21 Mar 2006 19:06
by nguwland
Hyronymus wrote:How about old(er) busses? Kromhout-Verheul, ARM-Pennock, Hainje (for those who live in a big Dutch city: they made 3 generations of 'Standaardbus' for city bus services).
Well, I am just 18 years old, so i never have seen those things in action, but have read enough about them, It would be nice to have a Dutch bus coverage from 1900-2050 (and beyond). From T-Fort up to 250 km/h+ superbus

Posted: 21 Mar 2006 19:54
by nguwland
Here are all eight views of the beautiful (in Real Life then, and in my opinion) Den Oudsten B90 Intercity bus.

Of course comments are welcome.
And George, Thanx a lot for your help.

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Posted: 21 Mar 2006 20:56
by George
nguwland wrote:Here are all eight views of the beautiful (in Real Life then, and in my opinion) Den Oudsten B90 Intercity bus.
Of course comments are welcome.
And George, Thanx a lot for your help.
Very nice, but I'd suggest working on it. The main problems now, which have to bу fixed first are:
1) diagonal view FROM player is 1px narrower, than the view TO player
2) the colours in horisantal and vertical views are not balanced to colours in diagonal views
3) there are no shadows. The colours on sides of the / and \ vies are the same. The should be 1 or 2 tones different.

Posted: 21 Mar 2006 21:01
by nguwland
Allr8, thanks.

Posted: 21 Mar 2006 21:26
by nguwland
I worked on the points you mentioned,
how about now?

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