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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX
Also, You can share the other version as a new GRF.
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX
IMO Red*Star's docks are too... "busy". To me they are reminiscent of some of the "advanced" station/building GRFs I've seen, rather than the generally cleaner, smoother look of the original TTD sprites.
I guess the thing that jars the most is the greenness of the ground. AFAICT the colour/texture doesn't really fit with any other surface anywhere else in the game. Make it the same grey as the locks, or the other docks, and that would 'clean' it up I think.
Another thing which doesn't feel right is the lack of a discrete edge to the dock. At the moment it looks like the base was designed so that you could have adjacent docks (which IIRC is not possible) merge into one platform, graphically. Though maybe that just means I think it's too wide.
Now I don't use ships in-game that often, so I could be wrong, but don't ships only ever dock at the end of the platform? The poor crane operator is likely to get awfully bored...
I've commented against the 'busy-ness' of the standard railway station platforms in the past, too.
I guess the thing that jars the most is the greenness of the ground. AFAICT the colour/texture doesn't really fit with any other surface anywhere else in the game. Make it the same grey as the locks, or the other docks, and that would 'clean' it up I think.
Another thing which doesn't feel right is the lack of a discrete edge to the dock. At the moment it looks like the base was designed so that you could have adjacent docks (which IIRC is not possible) merge into one platform, graphically. Though maybe that just means I think it's too wide.

Now I don't use ships in-game that often, so I could be wrong, but don't ships only ever dock at the end of the platform? The poor crane operator is likely to get awfully bored...

I've commented against the 'busy-ness' of the standard railway station platforms in the past, too.

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX
Guys, you rock!
Now, I have still a "little" request, could you make OpenGFX completly independent from originals? Empty stprites in the logo grf and in toyland doesn't matter that much, as we do not play that often with it anyway. (That might change, if the replacement for Toyland is finished too. ;--)
But then we could use the replacement as full and do not need to link to the suspecting original downloads.
That would help for support very much.
Dunno, if the devs would include a 90% finished GRF, but I am sure, i.e. dedicated server wouldn't care either.
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Ammler
Now, I have still a "little" request, could you make OpenGFX completly independent from originals? Empty stprites in the logo grf and in toyland doesn't matter that much, as we do not play that often with it anyway. (That might change, if the replacement for Toyland is finished too. ;--)
But then we could use the replacement as full and do not need to link to the suspecting original downloads.
That would help for support very much.
Dunno, if the devs would include a 90% finished GRF, but I am sure, i.e. dedicated server wouldn't care either.
Greets
Ammler
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX
FWIW, I prefer Red*Star's canal lock.
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX
I have the same problem with purple graphics, and had with dialog box of corrupted opentddw.grf.DJ Nekkid wrote:well, i did get it working, but now monorail and maglev trains are purple/pink ish, and some buildings are as well
and yes, i have that, and all other, file(s) in my \data folder (winxp)
The dialog box screenshot you posted is shown because there is invalid md5 of openttdw.grf in your opengfx.obg file. It won't show again if you copy md5 of openttdw.grf from orig_win.obg file.
md5 of openttdw.grf from build 14275 (or 14253 as is described inside orig_win.obg file):
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[md5s]
openttdw.grf = d265ad550b7ca83ae94d83492c3cad11

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX
Here are the most recent temperate buildings and Red*Star's docks/locks.
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX
About toyland: Foobar, you forgot to include bubbles and battery farm. I did coded and released both some time ago.
Anyway should I code special planes into eyecandy grf, or leave it for someone else for some other grf?
Anyway should I code special planes into eyecandy grf, or leave it for someone else for some other grf?
Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX
No, I haven't, because I decided to do toyland only when it's completely (or as much as the rest is now) finished. The trees were conveniently coded. While I was busy with the other trees, I added the toyland trees (not all though) in like 5 seconds. Seperate toyland stuff isn't worth the effort right now, because most of it is missing anyways.Soeb wrote:About toyland: Foobar, you forgot to include bubbles and battery farm. I did coded and released both some time ago.
That's a feature and not a bug.orb wrote:I have the same problem with purple graphics,
That might be because I'm using an older version of OpenTTD, and openttdw.grf has been updated since. I'll look into that, but that message should not further effect gameplay.orb wrote:and had with dialog box of corrupted opentddw.grf.
I was planning on doing the openttdw.grf tonight, but if you like (I'm assuming that, so no need to reply), I can start with creating blank files for trgtr and trgir. Because new things came available for trg1r, you can expect an new release either tonight or somewhere tomorrow.Ammler wrote:I have still a "little" request, could you make OpenGFX completly independent from originals?
Possibly only when everything except toyland is completely finished. Otherwise I don't think so.Ammler wrote:Dunno, if the devs would include a 90% finished GRF
Yes, that error text is a bit misleading. It should read "Your 'openttdw.grf' file is corrupted or missing! Or maybe not. The final version of OpenGFX will fix this error.DJ Nekkid wrote:

Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX
Oh. I understand. Missing sprites from opengfx1r.grf are pink/purple.FooBar wrote:That's a feature and not a bug.orb wrote:I have the same problem with purple graphics,
This was about below message:FooBar wrote:That might be because I'm using an older version of OpenTTD, and openttdw.grf has been updated since. I'll look into that, but that message should not further effect gameplay.orb wrote:and had with dialog box of corrupted opentddw.grf.
It's not an error, only warning message that calculated md5 of openttdw.grf is other than that in opengfx.obg - if it's disturbing, it won't show if replaced with corresponding md5 from orig_win.obg.FooBar wrote:Yes, that error text is a bit misleading. It should read "Your 'openttdw.grf' file is corrupted or missing! Or maybe not. The final version of OpenGFX will fix this error.DJ Nekkid wrote:"
Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX
That last one error will be absolutely history as soon as we have a proper opengfxw.grf to replace the openttdw.grf. For now either just ignore it or indeed copy over the corresponding md5 hash.
Zephyris, I'm pretty much in the need of sprite number 1420. That's a full paved tile, which should go under a lot of things like for instance the statue. I don't seem to be able to locate that, but I'm pretty sure you have it sitting around somewhere.EDIT: Never mind, I've found one in the industries grf.
EDIT:
New release!
This one contains replacements for all original graphic files. Please note that not all sprites are included, so don't complain about that. I also removed the red placeholder sprites. The disadvantage of this is that the game will glitch if it doesn't have a sprite to draw (check toyland for a good example of that). The advantage is that all remains of the original graphics are removed.
Just unzip into your data directory. If the data directory is located outside the openttd directory, the game will use OpenGFX by default. Otherwise, add graphicsset = OpenGFX to the end of the [misc] section of your openttd.cfg. Note: requires recent nightly, will not work in 0.6.x. The following things are still missing from opengfx1r.grf:
Docks are not included awaiting the result of the discussion.
There are some issues with buildings being recoloured or something. I'll look into that later.
Zephyris, I'm pretty much in the need of sprite number 1420. That's a full paved tile, which should go under a lot of things like for instance the statue. I don't seem to be able to locate that, but I'm pretty sure you have it sitting around somewhere.EDIT: Never mind, I've found one in the industries grf.
EDIT:
New release!
This one contains replacements for all original graphic files. Please note that not all sprites are included, so don't complain about that. I also removed the red placeholder sprites. The disadvantage of this is that the game will glitch if it doesn't have a sprite to draw (check toyland for a good example of that). The advantage is that all remains of the original graphics are removed.
Just unzip into your data directory. If the data directory is located outside the openttd directory, the game will use OpenGFX by default. Otherwise, add graphicsset = OpenGFX to the end of the [misc] section of your openttd.cfg. Note: requires recent nightly, will not work in 0.6.x. The following things are still missing from opengfx1r.grf:
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//912-989 african manager faces
//1406-1407 street lights
//1414-1419 road reconstruction
//1530-1535 modern office building
//1552-1553 theatre
//2353-2364 jack lumber's house
//2727-2732 docks
//2809-2904 wagons monorail/maglev
//2981-2992 locomotives monorail
//2993-3016 locomotives maglev
//3073-3083 rail smoke effects
//3701-3740 smoke/explosion effects
//3910-3917 submarine
//3918-3919 small fighter
//3920 large ufo
//3921 large fighter
//3922-3923 apache fighter
//4404-4405 cinema
//4406-4417 mall
//4434-4445 several office buildings
//4462-4465 arctic church
//4471-4476 arctic hotel
//4480-4492 arctic office buildings
//4574 snow equiv of 4434-4437 (several office buildings)
//4575 snow equiv of 4438-4441 (office block)
//4576 snow equiv of 4442-4445 (office block)
//4579 snow equiv of 4464-4465 (arctic church)
//4583-4584 snow equiv of 4471-4476 (hotel)
//4585 snow equiv of 4480-4482 (offices)
//4586-4587 snow equiv of 4485-4492 (offices)
//4604 tropic building
//4614-4619 weird modern building
//4623-4625 modern building
//4627-4789 toyland buildings industries whatsoever
//several toyland trees
//4790 buy land sign
There are some issues with buildings being recoloured or something. I'll look into that later.
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX
Please take in consideration light grey text might be unreadable in SubSilver.FooBar wrote:Zephyris, I'm pretty much in the need of sprite number 1420. That's a full paved tile, which should go under a lot of things like for instance the statue. I don't seem to be able to locate that, but I'm pretty sure you have it sitting around somewhere.

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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX
I did. Since the text was obsolete, there's no point in reading it anyways.Purno wrote:Please take in consideration light grey text might be unreadable in SubSilver.
And b), why are you using SubSilver. The TT layout is WAY more cooler!
Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX
So... With the ongoing arguments on copyright the licence these graphics will be released under has reared its head again. This has been discussed in the thread previously, and IIRC stated the assumption that all graphics posted in this thread may be used even if the author disappears off somewhere, but I cant find it! So lets try again!
To keep the discussion etc. separate from the graphics dev I have created a new thread, please can everyone who contributed (coders and artists) go and vote.
To keep the discussion etc. separate from the graphics dev I have created a new thread, please can everyone who contributed (coders and artists) go and vote.
Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX
Well, since the pattern of opinions concerning the ?ocks problem is still undetermined (reading the posts above: 3:2), is it ok for you if I make a separate poll to get to a final result, Zephyris?Zephyris wrote:To keep the discussion etc. separate ...
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX
Of course, go for it
I must say I like your docks though, they are definately much better than mine and make a nice set 


Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX
CC BY-SA and CC BY-NC-SA are incompatible with the GPL. A GPL program needs to have the possibility to be sold and modified without crediting the authors. But the derivative works have always to keep the same license.
If parts of OpenTTD are not free software, most Linux and BSD distributions will refuse to distribute it in their repositories. This is a quite big problem.
Using GPL means that only another GPL licenced games can reuse the graphics. Not for example any closed-source freeware games.
If someone wants to make prints of the graphics and distribute them then they have to supply the prints with the GPL licence. But I think this is a very unlikely scenario.
If parts of OpenTTD are not free software, most Linux and BSD distributions will refuse to distribute it in their repositories. This is a quite big problem.
Using GPL means that only another GPL licenced games can reuse the graphics. Not for example any closed-source freeware games.
If someone wants to make prints of the graphics and distribute them then they have to supply the prints with the GPL licence. But I think this is a very unlikely scenario.
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX
a VERY wrong thread. Please follow the LINKS which are posted to AVOID[0] this dicussion here.
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And a thread about OpenGFX copyright too. Please don't start this discussion here again if there are two (2!) more threads created in purpose of letting this thread be clean of those thingsZephyris wrote: To keep the discussion etc. separate from the graphics dev I have created a new thread, please can everyone who contributed (coders and artists) go and vote.
Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX
Hello people
After another heavy multiple test with the GRF behind me, the replacement just is going to be great. I can now play games with newgrfs (no default monorail and maglev) quite nice.
Anyway, I have trouble to join the current #openttdcoop PublicServer with an empty sample.cat, as that file needs also to be replaced, not able to find the issue, yet.
Edit:
Found a small glitch with empty wood waggons: Greets
Ammler
After another heavy multiple test with the GRF behind me, the replacement just is going to be great. I can now play games with newgrfs (no default monorail and maglev) quite nice.
Anyway, I have trouble to join the current #openttdcoop PublicServer with an empty sample.cat, as that file needs also to be replaced, not able to find the issue, yet.
Edit:
Found a small glitch with empty wood waggons: Greets
Ammler
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Re: [8bpp] Graphics Replacement Project - OpenGFX
I don't recall that Purno said he was.FooBar wrote:And b), why are you using SubSilver
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