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Re: [OT] Language skills . Was Re: Against it, definitely

Posted: 14 Jan 2000 00:00
by Phillip Michael Jordan
Naturally. But the metabolic rate does play a major part in it. I have
never
been overweight in my life. By overweight, I have never had a higher than
the accepted levels in the Body Mass Index scores, making me the perfect
weight for my height.
I have also never been overweight, actually I'm far from it ;-)

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Re: [OT] Language skills . Was Re: Against it, definitely

Posted: 14 Jan 2000 00:00
by Phillip Michael Jordan
When I was at school I always complained about homework. School for was
working at, and I did, but home was my leisure time and I objected to
being given more work to do at home. I used every trick in the book to
avoid bringing work home. It was the only thing I regularly got into
trouble for.

I was told I'd think differently when I grew up. I don't know how old
you have to be to be grown up, but forty years on I still think it's
wrong.

Work time and leisure time should be clearly defined. While you're at
school, you work. No argument there. While you're at home you should
be able to forget about school. If you can't learn everything you're
supposed to at school, then extend school hours.

Please! Tell that to our teachers! *beg*
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Re: [OT] Language skills . Was Re: Against it, definitely

Posted: 14 Jan 2000 00:00
by Phillip Michael Jordan
Work time and leisure time should be clearly defined. While you're at
school, you work. No argument there. While you're at home you should
be able to forget about school. If you can't learn everything you're
supposed to at school, then extend school hours.

From my experience, while you're at school you listen to someone talk for
a
few hours while saying about 5 minutes worth of useful information, or you
sleep. Then at home you learn the material on your own in much less time.
That's not my problem. At school we do things that I know to about 99%, in
Maths, English, French, Physics, and most of Biology to 100%
And when I'm too bored and look uninterested the teachers get mad. They also
get AWFULLY mad if I don't do my homework. In my eyes it's a total waste of
time for me. But of course nobody ever asks me about my opinion

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Re: OT] Language skills . Was Re: Against it, definitely

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Kmarcks
"> : Hi people, I dont normally say much in this group, because I am a very
slow typist.And that is because I type with two fingers. Also Im rather shy
and dont like the idea of getting flamed.
Because im slow typing, It has been my habit to shorten a message
when ever I could.

such as "u" for you
also "an for and
And "9" for nine

Why should I write perfectly when you can still understand me? After all I
dont speak properly, I have a scots accent, And my EX wife says I dont think
properly either. So what?

This standard that you are trying to impose on this group may well have
other effects that you may not like.

It could stop other lurkers from joining in, and that would be a pity.
Not everyone is capable, or wants to reach your high standards. I come here
to enjoy myself and if coming here stops being fun, then Ill stop coming.

And please, Im not Flaming any one, and I will be reluctant to say any more
on this matter.

Thankyou for your time.

K.Marcks
:
:

Re: [AGAINST!!!!!] 3DTT - Debate now in session.............

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Graham Cox
On Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:17:06 -0000, "Paul Wright" <ask...@for.it> Gave
forth this really invaluable piece of information:
how do i kill files posts, i can't i can kill file ppl, not posts

I don't know, because Free Agent can't killfile anything, but Surely
you can filter out any post with 3dtt in the title. Your using OE5, so
you can use the Message Rules feature, which is just a fancy name for
a killfile, to filter them out.
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Re: [OT] Bad habits

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Graham Cox
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:35:03 +0000, Stephen Down <sjd...@york.ac.oook>
Gave forth this really invaluable piece of information:
Boudewijn wrote:

You know what : means, so why complain?

I don't know about other newsreaders, but Netscape will mark quoted text
marked with ">" in a different colour or style, which makes reading
messages much easier on the eye. It doesn't work for any other quotation
symbol, though.
Free Agent, and I assume Agent, does exactly the same. It works with
most delimiters for quotes though, including '|', '>',':' and several
others.
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Re: OT] Language skills . Was Re: Against it, definitely

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Eddie Bernard
Kmarcks wrote
"> : Hi people, I dont normally say much in this group, because I am a
very
slow typist.And that is because I type with two fingers. Also Im rather
shy
and dont like the idea of getting flamed.
Because im slow typing, It has been my habit to shorten a message
when ever I could.
I type with two fingers and can still get up to speeds of 40-50 wpm. I have
learned to touch type as well, but with the touch typing, has come the usage
of my right hand middle finger. So I sort of type with three fingers, and I
use my thumb for the spacebar.
such as "u" for you
also "an for and
And "9" for nine

Why should I write perfectly when you can still understand me? After all I
dont speak properly, I have a scots accent, And my EX wife says I dont
think
properly either. So what?
I couldn't agree more with you. This recent thread has become very fascist,
and insulting to anyone who types in lowercase. I have no problem with this,
just as long as I can understand it, which I normally can.
This standard that you are trying to impose on this group may well have
other effects that you may not like.

It could stop other lurkers from joining in, and that would be a pity.
Not everyone is capable, or wants to reach your high standards. I come
here
to enjoy myself and if coming here stops being fun, then Ill stop coming.
I agree. Usenet is not meant to be ruled over by someone, and although the
standards of Netiquette apply, there is nothing anyone can do to make
someone post better. They have to be willing and ready to do so. If they
don't, then that's up to them. As long as the post is understandable, that's
fine by me.
And please, Im not Flaming any one, and I will be reluctant to say any
more
on this matter.
Eddie
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Re: [OT] Bad habits

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Paul Wright
how many groups are you on?

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: wrote...
: >usually i can remomber the jist of the thread yes,unless you have 100000
: >ng's your subbed to it shouldn't be too much of a problem
:
: I just calculated that I read on average 581 posts a day. My memory isnt
: *that* good! In fact, it's not good at all.
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Re: OT] Language skills . Was Re: Against it, definitely

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Paul Wright
if i typed like i talked, with my accent and strange phonetic speeling no
one would understand, i get what you mean about "u" and stuff, and a lot of
my cock ups are cos i type fast but not too good

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Kmarcks <k...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:85oign$lea$1@neptunium.btinternet.com...
:
: "> : Hi people, I dont normally say much in this group, because I am a
very
: slow typist.And that is because I type with two fingers. Also Im rather
shy
: and dont like the idea of getting flamed.
: Because im slow typing, It has been my habit to shorten a message
: when ever I could.
:
: such as "u" for you
: also "an for and
: And "9" for nine
:
: Why should I write perfectly when you can still understand me? After all I
: dont speak properly, I have a scots accent, And my EX wife says I dont
think
: properly either. So what?
:
: This standard that you are trying to impose on this group may well have
: other effects that you may not like.
:
: It could stop other lurkers from joining in, and that would be a pity.
: Not everyone is capable, or wants to reach your high standards. I come
here
: to enjoy myself and if coming here stops being fun, then Ill stop coming.
:
: And please, Im not Flaming any one, and I will be reluctant to say any
more
: on this matter.
:
: Thankyou for your time.
:
: K.Marcks
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:

Re: OT] Language skills . Was Re: Against it, definitely

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Bill Hayles
On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 01:25:48 -0000, "Kmarcks" <k...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"> : Hi people, I dont normally say much in this group, because I am a very
slow typist.And that is because I type with two fingers. Also Im rather shy
and dont like the idea of getting flamed.
Fair enough. I won't flame you. But I will explain, politely I hope,
why it's in your interests to post as clearly as you can.
Because im slow typing, It has been my habit to shorten a message
when ever I could.
I can understand that. We all do it. I'm not that fast a typist,
either - no more than thirty wpm.
such as "u" for you
also "an for and
And "9" for nine

Why should I write perfectly when you can still understand me?
We can still understand you, but it takes more effort on our part.
Also, it doesn't look professional. Because it takes more effort, we're
less likely to read your message thoroughly. If you want to be taken
seriously, you need to put the effort in. You want to be lazy by
shortening, expecting us to do the work decoding.
After all I
dont speak properly, I have a scots accent,
That's nonsense. There's nothing wrong in speaking with an accent of
any sort, provided your speech is, like your writing, clear and
reasonably correct grammatically. Regional accents are one of the joys
of the English language, and should be cherished.
And my EX wife says I dont think
properly either. So what?
Precisely.
This standard that you are trying to impose on this group may well have
other effects that you may not like.
Nobody is trying to impose any "standards". All some of us are trying
to point out is that if you want to be taken seriously, it is in your
own interests to post in correct English as far as you can. If those
for whom English is a foreign language can manage it, then why can't the
rest of us.
It could stop other lurkers from joining in, and that would be a pity.
I agree to an extent, but there again if you post a badly written, badly
spelt, badly punctuated post, it doesn't do anything to impress you to
your intended audience.
Not everyone is capable, or wants to reach your high standards. I come here
to enjoy myself and if coming here stops being fun, then Ill stop coming.
That would be a pity.
And please, Im not Flaming any one,
No, you're not. You're making your point clearly and concisely. In
other words, a well written post! So what are you worrying about?
and I will be reluctant to say any more
on this matter.
But please don't be reluctant to talk about TT. That's what this
newsgroup is about!
Thankyou for your time.
Your more than welcome. And if the message I've just spent ten minutes
replying to is typical of your level of posting, you've nothing to worry
or apologise for! I only spend this amount of time replying to messages
that are worth spending the time on.

From Benitachell, Alicante, Spain
Bill Hayles
bill...@ctv.es

Re: OT] Language skills . Was Re: Against it, definitely

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Eddie Bernard
Bill Hayles wrote
Kmarcks" wrote:

such as "u" for you
also "an for and
And "9" for nine

Why should I write perfectly when you can still understand me?

We can still understand you, but it takes more effort on our part.
Also, it doesn't look professional. Because it takes more effort, we're
less likely to read your message thoroughly. If you want to be taken
seriously, you need to put the effort in. You want to be lazy by
shortening, expecting us to do the work decoding.
Thats a valid point you have made there Bill. We all have to read lowercase
posts sometime, and although I have nothing against it, I think that people
who write in lowercase are lazy, or they have a broken Caps Lock or shift
key.
After all I
dont speak properly, I have a scots accent,

That's nonsense. There's nothing wrong in speaking with an accent of
any sort, provided your speech is, like your writing, clear and
reasonably correct grammatically. Regional accents are one of the joys
of the English language, and should be cherished.
Accents are excellent. Although it is difficult to believe, every country
has an accent. The Chinese do! It all sounds the same to me though. Sadly
though, some Americans think we all speak with the same BBC English accent.
A tiny minority do so. I suppose to them though, that they all sound the
same, just like different American accents sound all the same to me. Even
sadder is the fact that accents are starting to merge. Estuary is becoming
very common now. It's a very diluted Londoner/Cockney accent. I also heard
that the Welsh and Birmingham/Brum accent is mingling. Hmm...what would that
sound like?! Scouse and Mancunian, Glaswegian and Edinbrough, Geordie and
Yorkshire/Lancastrian. Soon we'll all be the same.
This standard that you are trying to impose on this group may well have
other effects that you may not like.

Nobody is trying to impose any "standards". All some of us are trying
to point out is that if you want to be taken seriously, it is in your
own interests to post in correct English as far as you can. If those
for whom English is a foreign language can manage it, then why can't the
rest of us.
As I pointed out the other week. Some foreigners speak better English than
some of us do.
It could stop other lurkers from joining in, and that would be a pity.

I agree to an extent, but there again if you post a badly written, badly
spelt, badly punctuated post, it doesn't do anything to impress you to
your intended audience.
Agreed.

<snip>
and I will be reluctant to say any more
on this matter.

But please don't be reluctant to talk about TT. That's what this
newsgroup is about!
Allegedly, yes :-)
Thankyou for your time.

Your more than welcome. And if the message I've just spent ten minutes
replying to is typical of your level of posting, you've nothing to worry
or apologise for! I only spend this amount of time replying to messages
that are worth spending the time on.
Eddie
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Re: OT] Language skills . Was Re: Against it, definitely

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Mike Wagstaff
Why should I write perfectly when you can still understand me? After all I
dont speak properly, I have a scots accent, And my EX wife says I dont think
properly either. So what?
I agree. There is no such thing as a "correct" language. As
long as its understandable, it's fine. Shortenings and
abbreviations (such as the ones you mentioned) are fine by
me - after all, we no longer say "do not" every time; we say
"don't". It's the evolution of language.
It could stop other lurkers from joining in, and that would be a pity.
Not everyone is capable, or wants to reach your high standards. I come here
to enjoy myself and if coming here stops being fun, then Ill stop coming.
It's not much fun to have your grammar/style dissected and
criticised - it's demeaning and embarassing. At the same
time, there's no real excuse for lazy people who don't bother
to make what they write understandable by not including any
punctuation (eg, full-stops!).

-Mike [http://games.hplx.net]

Re: OT] Language skills . Was Re: Against it, definitely

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Paul Wright
Eddie Bernard <e...@ttworld.the-whale.com> wrote in message
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: I couldn't agree more with you. This recent thread has become very
fascist,
: and insulting to anyone who types in lowercase. I have no problem with
this,
: just as long as I can understand it, which I normally can.

i agree, it'll end in either a war, a split or a fascist dictator ship the
way were going,

: I agree. Usenet is not meant to be ruled over by someone, and although the
: standards of Netiquette apply, there is nothing anyone can do to make
: someone post better. They have to be willing and ready to do so. If they
: don't, then that's up to them. As long as the post is understandable,
that's
: fine by me.

i don't know why i never bother with caps, just too lazy really, also i've
seen in other groups when ppl are made to punctate, it goes the other way
and they will puposely not just to provoke the ppl who think it should be
one,

Re: OT] Language skills . Was Re: Against it, definitely

Posted: 15 Jan 2000 00:00
by Paul Wright
why do ppl hafta post in caps and queens english to be taken seriously by
you, as eddie said, this is turning nasty, and ppl don't care anymore, most
of usenet use expressions like "u" why should ppl hafta change, just for
oyu, no one else round here seems to have so much of a problem with it. and
whats this about impressing, we not trying to impress anyone, maybe you are,
but no one else cares, like eddie said, give it up, no one cares and you
wont change anyone by forcing them into it

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Bill Hayles <bill...@ctv.es> wrote in message
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: On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 01:25:48 -0000, "Kmarcks" <k...@yahoo.com> wrote:
:
: >
: >"> : Hi people, I dont normally say much in this group, because I am a
very
: >slow typist.And that is because I type with two fingers. Also Im rather
shy
: >and dont like the idea of getting flamed.
:
: Fair enough. I won't flame you. But I will explain, politely I hope,
: why it's in your interests to post as clearly as you can.
:
: > Because im slow typing, It has been my habit to shorten a message
: >when ever I could.
:
: I can understand that. We all do it. I'm not that fast a typist,
: either - no more than thirty wpm.
: >
: >such as "u" for you
: >also "an for and
: >And "9" for nine
: >
: >Why should I write perfectly when you can still understand me?
:
: We can still understand you, but it takes more effort on our part.
: Also, it doesn't look professional. Because it takes more effort, we're
: less likely to read your message thoroughly. If you want to be taken
: seriously, you need to put the effort in. You want to be lazy by
: shortening, expecting us to do the work decoding.
:
: > After all I
: >dont speak properly, I have a scots accent,
:
: That's nonsense. There's nothing wrong in speaking with an accent of
: any sort, provided your speech is, like your writing, clear and
: reasonably correct grammatically. Regional accents are one of the joys
: of the English language, and should be cherished.
:
: >And my EX wife says I dont think
: >properly either. So what?
:
: Precisely.
:
: >
: >This standard that you are trying to impose on this group may well have
: >other effects that you may not like.
:
: Nobody is trying to impose any "standards". All some of us are trying
: to point out is that if you want to be taken seriously, it is in your
: own interests to post in correct English as far as you can. If those
: for whom English is a foreign language can manage it, then why can't the
: rest of us.
:
: >
: >It could stop other lurkers from joining in, and that would be a pity.
:
: I agree to an extent, but there again if you post a badly written, badly
: spelt, badly punctuated post, it doesn't do anything to impress you to
: your intended audience.
:
: >Not everyone is capable, or wants to reach your high standards. I come
here
: >to enjoy myself and if coming here stops being fun, then Ill stop coming.
:
: That would be a pity.
:
: >
: >And please, Im not Flaming any one,
:
: No, you're not. You're making your point clearly and concisely. In
: other words, a well written post! So what are you worrying about?
:
: > and I will be reluctant to say any more
: >on this matter.
:
: But please don't be reluctant to talk about TT. That's what this
: newsgroup is about!
:
: >
: >Thankyou for your time.
:
: Your more than welcome. And if the message I've just spent ten minutes
: replying to is typical of your level of posting, you've nothing to worry
: or apologise for! I only spend this amount of time replying to messages
: that are worth spending the time on.
:
: From Benitachell, Alicante, Spain
: Bill Hayles
: bill...@ctv.es

Re: OT] Language skills . Was Re: Against it, definitely

Posted: 16 Jan 2000 00:00
by Bill Hayles
On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 16:23:42 -0000, "Eddie Bernard"
<e...@ttworld.the-whale.com> wrote:

Accents are excellent. Although it is difficult to believe, every country
has an accent.
I am made very aware of that sometimes.

Some years ago, a tour guide, who spoke the purest Castellano, in the
same way as the BBC newsreaders speak pure English, tried to explain why
she winced at my accent when speaking Castellano.

She asked me to imagine someone who was Spanish and who had learned
their English in Blaenau Ffestiniog. Not only would they speak bad
English with a Spanish accent, but it would be peppered with Welsh
pronunciations and phrases.

The Castellano spoken on the Costa Blanca is very dialectic, largely as
a result of the crossover with Valenciano. For example, locally plurals
are formed by simply adding an "s". The plural of the word for train,
tren, is pronounced "trens" even though it is spelt "trenetes" and the
correct pronunciation is, I know, "tren-e-tez". If I want 22 I would
(phonetically) ask for "bentidoe wavoes" instead of "vay-in-tay dos
wuayvos". Now I'm starting (gulp!) to learn Castellano formally, I'm
having to mend my ways!

From Benitachell, Alicante, Spain
Bill Hayles
bill...@ctv.es

Re: OT] Language skills . Was Re: Against it, definitely

Posted: 16 Jan 2000 00:00
by Bill Hayles
On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 18:54:10 -0000, "Paul Wright" <ask...@for.it> wrote:
why do ppl hafta post in caps and queens english to be taken seriously by
you,
You don't have to. I just find it easier to read.
as eddie said, this is turning nasty,
I'm not turning nasty. At least I hope I'm not. I'm not trying to
flame anybody, but I was asked to explain why I think it's better to
post as clearly as you can, and that's what I've done.
and ppl don't care anymore, most
of usenet use expressions like "u" why should ppl hafta change, just for
oyu, no one else round here seems to have so much of a problem with it. and
whats this about impressing, we not trying to impress anyone, maybe you are,
but no one else cares, like eddie said, give it up, no one cares and you
wont change anyone by forcing them into it
I'm not trying to force anybody to do anything. I know better than
that. But when I'm asked to explain my position I'll do so, as you have
just done!

From Benitachell, Alicante, Spain
Bill Hayles
bill...@ctv.es

Re: OT] Language skills . Was Re: Against it, definitely

Posted: 17 Jan 2000 00:00
by Rémi Denis
Kmarcks <k...@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message :
85oign$le...@neptunium.btinternet.com...
Why should I write perfectly when you can still understand me?
Because some foreign people think it's difficult enough to read correct
English posts with a dictionnary next to them, and because it would be fine
not to make it harder for them to understand what you said.
After all I dont speak properly, I have a scots accent,
You'll probably laugh if you hear my French accent... and I think that, as I
don't articulate much, you won't understand anything, but you can read what
I write because I write ~properly.
It could stop other lurkers from joining in, and that would be a pity.
Not everyone is capable, or wants to reach your high standards. I come
here
to enjoy myself and if coming here stops being fun, then Ill stop coming.
I can't reach « high standards » either, but I'd rather read posts where
sentences are clearly separated, and consequently easier to understand than
skipping posts without any uppercase chars.

--
Rémi
from Phalempin, France
(remove every number to reply)

> K.Marcks

Re: [OT] Bad habits

Posted: 17 Jan 2000 00:00
by Paul Wright
do you have alife?

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: In <s80vgaebeh...@corp.supernews.com>, "Paul Wright" <ask...@for.it>
: wrote...
: >how many groups are you on?
:
: 14.
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Re: [OT] Bad habits

Posted: 19 Jan 2000 00:00
by Paul Wright
this is my list of NG's

microsoft.private.office2000beta.frontpage
microsoft.private.office2000beta.publisher
microsoft.private.uk-irl.nt5beta.general
alt.aggta
alt.binaries.catherine.zeta.jones
alt.binaries.games.grand-theft-auto
alt.flame.aggta
alt.games.grand-theft-auto
alt.games.microprose.transport-tyc
free.uk.talk.cumberland
uk.local.cumbria

11 is enough for me...

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: Lots of it, actually. I just like to read lots as well.
:
: More or less every other weekend I'm not at home, so I just use Agent's
: catch-up function to skip over downloading those messages that I missed.
:
: Oh and I recently added some more, so now I am subbed to 19... though I
: might get rid of some. ;-)
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: Posted to agmt-t only;
: Make Eddie unhappy by removing
: that part from the email address.

Re: [OT] Bad habits

Posted: 19 Jan 2000 00:00
by Rick McGreal
Paul Wright <ask...@for.it> wrote in message
news:s7usgh26oj8171@corp.supernews.com...
is always snip so thers only the post before
: Leaving things like other peoples sigs is a waste IMO.
SIG AND PLUG WITH IT SNIPPED COS RICK SAID SO
Hahahahaha.......

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