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Posted: 15 May 2006 16:19
by ZxBiohazardZx
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777family/index.html
the pics there are the official boeing pics, the exterior is resisable to somewhat bigger, without any big problems
Posted: 15 May 2006 16:27
by Born Acorn
You seem a bit too hyped over getting Pictures, ZxBiohazardZx, but Crazy Vaclav seems to want large technical drawing, whereas the ones on boeing are the same as the ones you posted before.
Posted: 15 May 2006 16:30
by ZxBiohazardZx
ok i made it little bigger for you, you can make it 150% larger if you really want to:)
Posted: 15 May 2006 17:17
by Ben_Robbins_
I dought crazy just wishes them to be magified... cause he would have done that himself. A small diagram contains little detail, and on that example the small amount of detail there is, is hard to make out.
Posted: 15 May 2006 17:19
by DeathByCake
I'm still wondering what the scale will be for the planes.
Posted: 15 May 2006 17:26
by Ben_Robbins_
I think at the moment, if you just make your airport so that the plains are realisticly sized (wich will be many many squares in legth), then your model will be suitable for any less zoomed in shots.
So take the planes legth in meters and devide it by 12.5, and its that many squares long.
Posted: 15 May 2006 17:31
by ZxBiohazardZx
another update to my mega list:
update includes:
-added stuff i missed (none?)
-added a TYPE to all projects
-sorted the current table by type (i want the uploaded one to be editable by user (so they can sort on whatever they want but im not sure how yet)
- cannot get the links back lolz, dunno why, to lazy to fill in 190 hyperlinks so......
Posted: 15 May 2006 18:00
by the master e
Made some progress with my roof. Plz give me some backup info and tips

Posted: 15 May 2006 18:02
by ZxBiohazardZx
very nice, looks promising:)

Posted: 15 May 2006 18:17
by Ben_Robbins_
I used some of the elements of the large digger for a tractor/digger thing, and i have a mesh for a crane, but its not textured correctly, but that cant be done indivudally for a bit of difference between peoples models.
Posted: 15 May 2006 19:18
by DeathByCake
Yeah, we've been through this before. I did that and the size is enormous, i'll mock up a couple of ports, see what happens.
Oh that was the other thing, what's the size threshold for different airports? I can't imagine 747 using a local airfield.
Ooh that JCB is pretty, I wan't one!
Posted: 15 May 2006 19:36
by Loop
Somebody here, some time ago, created a "bobcat", to be included in the building stages...
Posted: 15 May 2006 19:40
by Ben_Robbins_
Yeah, im awair the problem of sizeing isnt yet resolved, but if you go large, then small is posible, but if you go small, then large is not...although if small is correct it would be disapointing to see the work not used for all its worth.
The JCB is W.I.P by the way...
The bobcat is '
http://tt-forums.net/files/bobcat_373.jpg ' according to bio's database
Posted: 15 May 2006 20:35
by the master e
Is the JCB WIP? Looks finished to me... What are you going to change than?
Posted: 15 May 2006 21:01
by Ben_Robbins_
Well the main body section is just a box for one!, and the windows look kinda lame.
Posted: 15 May 2006 21:06
by DeathByCake
Ben, shut up! The JCB looks gorgeous (I actually like the windows like that)
I always did want a jcb, you ever had a look at their website, the sheer number of joyous mechanical damage inducers! One day, oh yes, one day!
Oh the other problem with scaling is things like window proportions go out of the window ( you see what I did there). So if even scaling down the proportions get screwed up.
DBC
Posted: 15 May 2006 21:23
by Ben_Robbins_
hmm, the real question is, has this scaling issue been decided or is it up to all of us to deside?.....
If its up to us to deside, then there seems to be 3 differnt ways of going.
1) a tile is 12.5M, everything must go realistically to that
2) Things are kept a 'resonable' size, but still allow correctly scaled viecles to move around them
3) Things are scaled to the old game sizes (or close to)...
I would like a jcb just to do some damage with, but ideally i would get a JD just cause they look awesum...since a couple of years back the fronts have dropped down like sports cars, its coool....
Posted: 15 May 2006 21:33
by Crazy Vaclav
I think smaller stuff, like trains and trucks, will be scaled to the correct size, while larger things will be made smaller than they really are. But I don't know how much smaller.
Posted: 15 May 2006 22:01
by Aracirion
Analoguously to the texture site I tried to open a
props site in the wiki. dmh_mac and Ben_Robbins_ I used your images as examples, hope you don't mind. I don't know whether we should share models as long as we haven't decided about a lighting setup, because textures will change, so please comment in
this thread.
Posted: 15 May 2006 22:11
by Ben_Robbins_
(Long Ramble about next to nothing.......)
Well an example of scale. the Boeing 767 is 48.5M-61.4 meters in legth acording to wikipedia...(depending on model i asume). so thats ruffly 4 tiles in legth minimum.
That means that the current 3x4 small airport would now need to be 4 times that to use plains in the same way. On this principle, the smallest airport is 12x16 tiles, the city and metropolitaasdfs airport are would need to be 24x24, and the international would need to be 28x28 tiles.
With the new tiles being x16 the size of the original ones (4 times legth and 4 times width) that means a new international airport is going to be the equivelent of 96 by 96 tiles.
On my screen, i can see from the top left to right, 40 squares...(I counted!!) so the largest airport will be ove 2 screens. Although for airports i asume you would start to zoom out to use them, in effect making it the same as being zoomed in on the original.
with the present 'most zoomed in' being the new 'most zoomed out' this zoom level would take about the entire screen to have the airport on....
The only thing that sounds conserning there, is searching for space to put it.
hmm, i made a grid with roads in the game to inspect it, and the smallest airport at a realistic size in the game (wich wll be the same as being zoomed out with new graphic), looks pretty resoble sized..... From this, i think my opion is that it would be best to make airports work the same way, but quadruple the size of them, to fit the plain sizes....(I would have printscreaned to show what i ment, but some stupid company built all over it..!!)
<edit> I think getting the scaling and lighting sorted are the most basic elements, and they should be sorted first. Thats cool, that youve made a place to start putting things. Could/should there be a Contents area on the main gfx page, with 'Textures' and 'Props' writen in it/and linked.