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Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 02 Oct 2020 09:21
by Zakos
Interesting that you mention foul play, because that's exactly what the lot of them would think if he passed. He, despite all odds, is such a godlike figure to them that to even think he was lying about his health would be glossed over in favor of a wild conspiracy theory that the democrats concocted the virus to steal the elec- wait, that one is already in circulation.

Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 02 Oct 2020 22:18
by kamnet
Chrill wrote: 02 Oct 2020 08:19 Donald Trump's "good genes image" could get a boost if...
Nope. As we speak, Donald Trump is being prepared to be transported from the front door of the White House via helicopter to Walter Reed Memorial Hospital. White House staff reported that he was "lethargic" this morning. White House doctors said that he has fever, chills, coughs and nasal congestion. He was giving an 8g dose of the experimental Regeneron anti-viral cocktail (not a vaccine), vitamins and an asprin.

Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 03 Oct 2020 21:45
by Chrill
Well, the "good genes" boost is definitely gone. We know for certain that they are doing everything they can to keep Trump appearing healthy, because if voters doubt his ability to lead then he stands no chance of winning. They would probably have hoped to keep his health under wraps, if he was sick but just about healthy enough to continue touring then he certainly would.

Fact is, his tweets have pretty much stopped. Just a month out from the election, he is not tweeting. That, alone, makes me think he's doing poorly.

Also, giving experimental and untested drugs to Presidents? That's... brave. They wouldn't do that if he was feeling fine, would they now?

Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 05 Oct 2020 06:47
by kamnet
Friday and Saturday, the White House and Ivanka Trump sent out photos showing the president "working" "very hard"

The photos show him in a suite working in a white dress shirt, and in another set wearing a suit jacket. The photo data shows they were taken 15 minutes apart. It shows mostly the same pile of blank manila envelopes, and apparently signing his name on blank sheets of paper.

Later in the day, a White House staff member confirmed they were concerned for his health when his oxygen suddenly dropped. Give my experience in taking care of people with respiratory issues, I am 100% certain he is on supplemental oxygen when he's not being photographed or seen in public.

Speaking of which, he broke isolation so that Secret Service members could drive him around the hospital grounds in a car and wave to fans. Secret Service has anonymously reported that they're upset that he's put their agent's lives at risk with his reckless behavior.

Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 05 Oct 2020 08:14
by Chrill
The Beast, as the car is known, is protected against chemical attacks. It should work both ways, in other words being locked in with Trump is highly contagious right?

Still, he did seem in better health in the later video posted. Those who get hid hard by Covid-19 do so about a week after falling sick, so the middle of this week will be the challenging part. If he is discharged today/tomorrow, that may still not mean the situation is over. If he is discharged, then brought back, that's bad optics. They'll probably keep him at Walter Reed at least until the weekend.

Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 30 Oct 2020 14:47
by Challenger007
The government needs to create the appearance of a strong president who is in the ranks and deals with current issues. This is important before the elections. If he is shown as a weak sick person, his rating will plummet. Why? Because only a healthy and strong person can effectively rule the country.

Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 31 Oct 2020 20:34
by Pilot
So, from Thursday, England will enter into a second national lockdown, for a period of 4 weeks, as announced by Boris Johnson in a heavily delayed press conference today.

Let's hope this one is successful and we might have a chance at Christmas.

BBC Article on the announcement

Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 31 Oct 2020 23:11
by Chrill
Sweden have started applying restrictions, still mostly along the lines of recommendation (but Swedes in general do follow government recommendations). However, museums are closed!

Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 01 Nov 2020 15:34
by Redirect Left
Pilot wrote: 31 Oct 2020 20:34 So, from Thursday, England will enter into a second national lockdown, for a period of 4 weeks, as announced by Boris Johnson in a heavily delayed press conference today.
It was very nice of COVID to give us 4 days notice before its next attack. So we all have 3-4 days to go to the pub and have a right party knowing COVID won't get us until Thursday!

Because we know what is going to happen, every one celebrates with one or 4 more nights of getting trashed and the virus spreads even faster.

Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 02 Nov 2020 00:23
by GarryG
Redirect Left wrote: 01 Nov 2020 15:34 It was very nice of COVID to give us 4 days notice before its next attack. So we all have 3-4 days to go to the pub and have a right party knowing COVID won't get us until Thursday!
Australia not much better instead of taking action immediately .. imagine if our country was attached by another .. will our leader say in 4 days time we going to have a war after we already being invaded.

Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 03 Nov 2020 02:10
by 2TallTyler
Winter is coming and with it, the first wave of new lockdowns in the United States. My home state of Massachusetts has orders going into effect Friday which will include a 10pm-5am stay at home advisory, with many businesses required to shut down at 9:30, plus tightened size limits on indoor and outdoor gatherings. Connecticut, our neighbor state to the south, is doing something similar and I expect other liberal-led states to follow suit.

At a rally this weekend, Trump said as soon as the election is over he'd consider firing Dr. Fauci, the country's top infectious disease expert, who tends to bring unwelcome facts to the president's message that COVID isn't that bad and we should all keep going out and spending money to keep the economy going. The results of tomorrow's election (which may not be fully decided for weeks, depending on delays counting ballots and possible court cases) will be pivotal for how the country handles this continuing crisis.

Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 03 Nov 2020 02:54
by GarryG
2TallTyler wrote: 03 Nov 2020 02:10 At a rally this weekend, Trump said as soon as the election is over he'd consider firing Dr. Fauci, the country's top infectious disease expert, who tends to bring unwelcome facts to the president's message that COVID isn't that bad and we should all keep going out and spending money to keep the economy going.
Information I read in Australian news it opposite story .. they say that Dr. Fauci has warned Trump and Trump not take notice. That the worse part of news reporters .. those who like Trump will tell a different story to those who don't and gets very confusing.

I in Philippines at moment and I like how they doing it .. any one with Covid-19 or been in contact with some one who has are basically locked in quarantine (usually their homes) with armed guards making sure they stay there until tests show they are negative.

Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 03 Nov 2020 08:21
by Chrill
GarryG wrote: 03 Nov 2020 02:54
2TallTyler wrote: 03 Nov 2020 02:10 At a rally this weekend, Trump said as soon as the election is over he'd consider firing Dr. Fauci, the country's top infectious disease expert, who tends to bring unwelcome facts to the president's message that COVID isn't that bad and we should all keep going out and spending money to keep the economy going.
Information I read in Australian news it opposite story .. they say that Dr. Fauci has warned Trump and Trump not take notice. That the worse part of news reporters .. those who like Trump will tell a different story to those who don't and gets very confusing.
They're saying the same thing, though. Dr. Fauci's facts, and they are facts, are unwelcome to President Trump since he won't acknowledge the science behind the coronavirus pandemic.

Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 03 Nov 2020 11:16
by kamnet
Hopefully today is the start of the last days for Donald Trump. If they are, prepare for chaos. And if they are not, prepare for different chaos.

Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 03 Nov 2020 11:46
by GarryG
kamnet wrote: 03 Nov 2020 11:16 Hopefully today is the start of the last days for Donald Trump. If they are, prepare for chaos. And if they are not, prepare for different chaos.
He appears to be a type of person who hates to lose and will cheat or do what ever he has to to always win even if it means risking the life of other. I image when he kid he chuck a tantrum if he not got what he wanted.

Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 05 Nov 2020 11:45
by Geo Ghost
Redirect Left wrote: 26 Sep 2020 01:27 Another 6,874 recorded in the UK. making for a very cliff like upward slide on the graph.
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At this point I am wondering if the British public are coughing directly into each others faces or something.
I remember when that was considered getting really bad... And that was only a couple of months ago.
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I think we've hit the capacity for testing. The cases were rising extremely rapidly and then suddenly hit a ceiling and levelled off instantly. There were still a great number of people who were out and about, no change to rules at the time, and I don't think the virus has gone on it's Autumn holiday. Think it's fair to say that our cases are substantially higher than reported.

But hey, here's a new lockdown - better late than never.. again. Though doesn't feel much of one if people can still go to work, school, college, meet one other person outside, etc.

Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 06 Nov 2020 20:04
by Zakos
GarryG wrote: 03 Nov 2020 11:46He appears to be a type of person who hates to lose and will cheat or do what ever he has to to always win even if it means risking the life of other. I image when he kid he chuck a tantrum if he not got what he wanted.
He doesn't seem to understand that he can't hold the White House as a squatter either. The secret service, who hates him immensely at this point, will remove him by force if he refuses. In fact, he seems not to understand a vast majority of his position in government.
Geo Ghost wrote: 05 Nov 2020 11:45Big Graph™
Is that countrywide or of a certain region?

Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 06 Nov 2020 21:13
by Redirect Left
Zakos wrote: 06 Nov 2020 20:04 The secret service, who hates him immensely at this point, will remove him by force if he refuses. In fact, he seems not to understand a vast majority of his position in government.
Ah yes, I saw that. On the one side I do want to see the Secret Service forcibly eject him from the house, as awful as that'd be for America if he did decide to go that route.

Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 09:54
by GarryG
When Trump first became President for a few years he was doing really good. Just past year or so, he seems to lost the plot.

Re: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic

Posted: 07 Nov 2020 17:47
by Quast65
COVFEFE!!! :mrgreen:

Congratulations America (and the rest of the world)