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Re: WIP: Beach object tiles

Posted: 12 Oct 2012 11:55
by Zephyris
OpenGFX and the original base graphics use an identical shading scheme.

I know because I specifically copied the relative brightnesses of the different slopes in the original graphics as a basis for drawing the OpenGFX ones.

Re: WIP: Beach object tiles

Posted: 17 Oct 2012 14:24
by Quast65
It is an interesting discussion, but I think it is better to continue that in a seperate thread and not this one.

For the moment I will stick to the shading that I showed earlier, for me it is fine now.
So time to move on, I made some changes to my umbrella design, how does this look? (please note that there won't be that many on a tile in the finished product, they will be mixed with people and beachtowels):
Beach36.png
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Re: WIP: Beach object tiles

Posted: 17 Oct 2012 15:50
by Bob_Mackenzie
As said above some shadows would be nice

Re: WIP: Beach object tiles

Posted: 17 Oct 2012 17:11
by Transportman
And maybe some variation? Now all tiles with the same slope have the same pattern. Also the poles are more clearly seen in some umbrellas, while in others they are almost invisible, my personal preference is to have them a bit less visible, but not grey/black as they are now.

Re: WIP: Beach object tiles

Posted: 17 Oct 2012 17:46
by Coxx
very nice development here :D
are you planing other objects that are not exactly beach like i.e. rocks, low tide area, sandbank, wrecks, ...?

Re: WIP: Beach object tiles

Posted: 17 Oct 2012 18:37
by kamnet
Quast65 wrote:So time to move on, I made some changes to my umbrella design, how does this look?
The umbrellas don't look as distinguished as previous designs, but the scale look to be more correct. I think I could be happy with either.
Bob_Mackenzie wrote:As said above some shadows would be nice
Without making the set 32bpp or having extra zoom levels, I don't see how you could get shadows worked in there and be able to distinguish it from the other blobs that make up sand and umbrellas.

Re: WIP: Beach object tiles

Posted: 18 Oct 2012 01:01
by Supercheese
kamnet wrote:Without making the set 32bpp or having extra zoom levels, I don't see how you could get shadows worked in there and be able to distinguish it from the other blobs that make up sand and umbrellas.
What's wrong with 32bpp?

Re: WIP: Beach object tiles

Posted: 18 Oct 2012 02:58
by kamnet
Supercheese wrote:
kamnet wrote:Without making the set 32bpp or having extra zoom levels, I don't see how you could get shadows worked in there and be able to distinguish it from the other blobs that make up sand and umbrellas.
What's wrong with 32bpp?
I dunno, why you ask me?

Re: WIP: Beach object tiles

Posted: 18 Oct 2012 12:10
by V453000 :)
Either way, creating shadows is not just about the amount of colours, and the ttd palette is well over sufficient for that. It is how you draw it, not just what does it run on - contrast can be reached in both cases the same way.

Re: WIP: Beach object tiles

Posted: 22 Oct 2012 18:40
by STD
Quast65 wrote:It is an interesting discussion, but I think it is better to continue that in a seperate thread and not this one.

For the moment I will stick to the shading that I showed earlier, for me it is fine now.
So time to move on, I made some changes to my umbrella design, how does this look? (please note that there won't be that many on a tile in the finished product, they will be mixed with people and beachtowels):
Beach36.png
Good evening. Looks very good. Cool :D . Can I ask you, and when will be able to see a test version to evaluate?

Re: WIP: Beach object tiles

Posted: 22 Oct 2012 21:20
by Quast65
-Regarding shadows:
I have decided not to draw shadows under the umbrella's, I don't think that it would look that good (and due to the small scale, it may even not be recognisable as shadows), furthermore I would then also have to give the people and buildings on the beach shadows too and I think that it would create a visual mess.
Also there are almost no shadows on any of the other buildings and features in this game, so I don't see why these would need some.
And finally it is quite a lot of work to draw shadows on slopes etc, as they would have to have different shapes.

-Regarding other stuff (rocks, shipwrecks, etc):
I'm not planning to make those just yet (I am planning to work on some other features first, swimming people, surfers, etc), but all help is welcome, so if someone can't resist to draw them, please do ;-)
Can I ask you, and when will be able to see a test version to evaluate?
I am getting very close to the release of version 1.0 (with many thanks to Wallyweb for his kind help with some coding issues).
All basic tiles are done, currently I'm working on the graphics for the people/towels/umbrella's on the beach and then it is ready for a release ;-)

Re: WIP: Beach object tiles

Posted: 23 Oct 2012 15:53
by STD
Quast65 wrote: I am getting very close to the release of version 1.0 (with many thanks to Wallyweb for his kind help with some coding issues).
All basic tiles are done, currently I'm working on the graphics for the people/towels/umbrella's on the beach and then it is ready for a release ;-)
Thank you :) . I will wait. You have great projects. With pleasure use in their games :wink: .

Re: WIP: Beach object tiles

Posted: 24 Oct 2012 06:16
by Quast65
Well people, the wait is over!
I proudly present version 1.0 of the Beach object GRF, don't forget to bring sunscreen lotion!! 8)

Here is the GRF with the GPLv2 license and readme in a .ZIP:
Beach_v1_0.zip
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The PCX-graphics:
beach_v1_0.pcx
(778.81 KiB) Downloaded 191 times
The NFO-code:
beach_v1_0.nfo
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Please be aware that this set is based on the OpenGFX landscape and water graphics and will therefore look at it's best with those landscape and water graphics installed!

Version 1.0 includes:
- Beachtiles with no shoreline (empty, with beachhouse and with people/towels/umbrella's)
- Beachtiles with OpenGFX shoreline (empty, with beachhouse and with people/towels/umbrella's)
- Beachtiles with shallow shoreline (empty, with beachhouse and with people/towels/umbrella's)
- Shallow watertiles, unanimated (empty and with people/towels/umbrella's)
- Shallow watertiles, with an animated wave (empty and with people/towels/umbrella's)
- Transition pieces (OpenGFX grass to beach)

Have fun!

Re: WIP: Beach object tiles, Version 1.0 released

Posted: 24 Oct 2012 06:54
by Supercheese
Very nice objects, just as amazing as I thought they'd be! :bow:

Re: WIP: Beach object tiles, Version 1.0 released

Posted: 24 Oct 2012 12:33
by jor[D]1
Very cool, Isn't it an idea to make a Seashores set?

The harbors, Beaches delta works all in one set. Maybe add some Dikes or cliffs.

Re: WIP: Beach object tiles

Posted: 24 Oct 2012 16:15
by STD
Very cool :D ! Thanks for the execution of a set of graphics :D .

Re: WIP: Beach object tiles, Version 1.0 released

Posted: 24 Oct 2012 20:15
by kamnet
Great job! One problem I did run into, you may need to load Beach Objects ahead of MariCo. I found a couple of Beach Object tiles loading itself into MariCo's Moles if MariCo was placed first. This may be an issue with my constantly changing NewGRFs and NewObjects in-game (DON'T DO THIS IF YOU DON'T WANNA DEAL W/ ISSUES!) and thus have messed up the config files, but I put that warning out just in case anybody else experiences it.

Re: WIP: Beach object tiles, Version 1.0 released

Posted: 25 Oct 2012 02:35
by Quast65
Thnx all, glad you like it!
@Kamnet, thnx for the warning. However I didn't experience any problems, I tried it out with a new game (MariCo before Beach and the other way around) and also in an existing game and as said had no problems.
I also checked if I might have used the same Class Text ID as MariCo for my objects (AFAIK those determine where and in what order the objects show up in the menu), but mine are totally different.
So I think the problem might be caused by what you already suspect with the multiple changes to newGRF's in your game ;-)
Have you tried it out with a "clean" game with MariCo loaded before Beach?

Re: WIP: Beach object tiles, Version 1.0 released

Posted: 25 Oct 2012 05:14
by kamnet
Yeah on a clean game looks like it works out okay. Haven't experienced any other issues in my current game other than the category mix-up.

Re: WIP: Beach object tiles, Version 1.0 released

Posted: 25 Oct 2012 05:57
by planetmaker
When will it become available, when can I expect delivery of this NewGRF to the retail stores? :D