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Posted: 06 Jan 2005 14:58
by Archonix
The flying scotsman coaches will be worth a a fair bit in a few years. They're already a collectors item now, I believe. The others... unless they're very short production runs or very high quality, model trains tend to depreciate in value quite quickly.

Posted: 06 Jan 2005 15:44
by Geo Ghost
the Virgin Voyager is very good quality and detail, and some of the others (including the Queen Mary) arnt sold any more :(
the Flying scotsman and coaches will b worth a lot. i dont know how much they were originally!!! i think i got them as a present from my family ages ago.

Posted: 06 Jan 2005 17:31
by Born Acorn
Had it replaced, works great!

Also my ebay order for two lms coaches came too.

Posted: 06 Jan 2005 17:34
by John
there is acutally a difference between HO and OO, though the track gauge is the same. put HO next to an OO and youll see it ;)
OO is larger.

born acorn great, can you send me the old one? or did you have to give that back?

Posted: 06 Jan 2005 17:38
by Born Acorn
had to send it back, sorry. :(

Cjoffers said yes to replacing it. If they hadn't then Id have been able to send it for you, for only the price of P&P

Posted: 06 Jan 2005 18:36
by Geo Ghost
o well, both types of trains run on both types of tracks :) thats the main thing. HO... OO... same difference!!!!

Posted: 06 Jan 2005 21:11
by Archonix
No. OO and HO are two different size models. Both run on the same track. HO is the accurate scale for the track. OO is slightly oversized for historical reasons. They might be able to run together on the same track but they will look completely stupid together, as most british outline stock is a lot smaller than american stock in real life.

Posted: 06 Jan 2005 21:28
by Geo Ghost
they do both run on each track (belive me, i got the track here)
anyway, moving away from that subject to somthing else...
question for every one. if you had the space time and money, what scale would you most like to work at

Posted: 06 Jan 2005 22:58
by John
Geo.c Ghost wrote:they do both run on each track (belive me, i got the track here)
thats would he said
HO is litterally half O scale, ie 1 foot to 3.5mm
OO is 1 foot to 4 mm,

the two different sizes came because they had problems fitting everything in the model in HO scale, so brittain switched to OO as it made it easier. wheres those that stuck with HO fitted it all in. (at least i think thats the reason...)

Posted: 06 Jan 2005 23:16
by Martin
I wondered why there were two such similar gauges...

My stuff is all OO, but like a lot of people it's shoved in the garage (in boxes, not a layout!)

Have had plans to make a decent layout for years now, but space is a big problem :roll:

Posted: 06 Jan 2005 23:36
by Jim-San
yay, I finally remembered to transfer this thing from my pc to my dads, anyway its made in Hornby Virtral Railway 2 (from now on its HVR2 as i can't spell lol) anyway since its designed for OO track and I wanted to do N i had to double the size of the baseboard on the OO version, so in N its 6ft * 3 ft, in OO its 12ft * 6ft.
The highlighted part of the track is the upper level (about 2 inches above the lower in N scale) and the grey is lower.
The theme is 2 towns trading...stuff, maybe goods and cars and stuff I haven't gotten that far, the blank in the middle is countryside, the 3rd track in the middle on the lower system is meant to have a turntable, but HVR2 don't do them so its replaced with some track.
There are 3 main loops and a point to point system everywhere and 2 shunting yards.
Hopefully when ever I finish building this track I'll take some pictures of it.

Posted: 07 Jan 2005 00:21
by BobDendry
There's also a new general Model Railroading forum. It's only small but I think if some of the people from this thread went there, it would grow a bit atleast.
http://shortline.7.forumer.com/

Posted: 07 Jan 2005 03:23
by spaceman-spiff
whitehandindustries wrote:There's also a new general Model Railroading forum. It's only small but I think if some of the people from this thread went there, it would grow a bit atleast.
http://shortline.7.forumer.com/
Not another member seeker :roll:

Posted: 07 Jan 2005 15:47
by Geo Ghost
Jim-San, can you post me the file save for that? im interested in having a look at it on my PC in 3D, with trains etc.
design is very well layed out.

Posted: 07 Jan 2005 16:59
by John
as promised:

a) this is certainly not how it will look finished
b) 4 continous loops with 1 station and 1 goods yard. boring? true (hence why i will change it) but as i let a 6 and 8 year old (and they have played on this some time...) play on it, i dont have to worry about trains crashing through buffers at the end, though trains going round corners is another problem...
c) i will at atleast another level (as, there will be tracks off different heights
d)scenary will include town + mountain...
e)eventually...

the cameras flash was on so the end nearer the camera will be lighter then usual


edit: non head tilter and spots off are the same view, one is portraight and one landscape, and spots off shows the spots better

oh, its 6x2m (roughly) and i stand in the middle controlling the trains.

Posted: 07 Jan 2005 20:44
by Jim-San
Geo.c Ghost you would need the Hornby Virtual Railway 2 to run it I think, but I shall go and find it then upload it if you want to try it out, the 3D design has no features like building or hills etc as I only used it to design the track, plus the terrian molder on HVR2 are abit to sensitive so I gave up on them lol.
Anyway I'll upload it tomorrow as I don't know where the file is :D, plus the net is on my dads pc and the file is on my pc so that'll take some time also :?

<edit>
Thanks for saying my desing is well layed out, kinda used some designs off a website in this thread and jumbled them up so its not entirely my idea, I was planning to make it simpler, but that never works for me lol.

Posted: 07 Jan 2005 23:53
by Geo Ghost
John, your layout is very nice, did it take long to make?

Jim-San-yes i have HVR2, i use it A LOT, but a lot of the layouts i make are just for fun, and get pretty boring!

Posted: 08 Jan 2005 01:11
by Martin
Is HVR2 any good? I've got the first one and was wondering if it's worth getting.

Not too sure how well it would work on my PC though, seems pretty demanding from what I've read

Posted: 08 Jan 2005 11:50
by John
well, as im only hear during the holidays, and had to save up for the track, and then plan it.

lemme think, the table (which is made out of doors) was put down about 3-4 years ago? (but i havent done anything in the last year...)

Posted: 08 Jan 2005 13:04
by Geo Ghost
Melkur wrote:Is HVR2 any good? I've got the first one and was wondering if it's worth getting.

Not too sure how well it would work on my PC though, seems pretty demanding from what I've read
YES, it is so much better, and a lot easier to use then HVR1.
mainly because HVR1 wasnt easy to make track, and you have limitations. HVR2, theres not any limitations. tracks easier to make, you can use the trains 1 by one, and not all at once, you can do shunting. its not just a design programme, its a game with no objective :wink: if that makes sence. you could make tracks to play on with your trains for fun. thats what i do. i'l get some creen shots if you want.