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Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [CODER NEEDED!]

Posted: 31 Aug 2009 02:01
by colossal404
Sorry for the confusion. :oops: So...

Easy things what I can code:
-simple locomotives, wagons
-wagons with different sprite sheet/cargo type
-wagons with random graphics

Difficult things what I can't code:
-wagons with changing amount of cargo/type
-more complex locos (like the loco with B unit)
-so many other things

I will modify the tanker tomorrow, it needs a bit seach about the cargo ID-s of FIRS and ECS.

Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [CODER NEEDED!]

Posted: 31 Aug 2009 02:04
by NekoMaster
colossal404 wrote:Sorry for the confusion. :oops: So...

Easy things what I can code:
-simple locomotives, wagons
-wagons with different sprite sheet/cargo type
-wagons with random graphics

Difficult things what I can't code:
-wagons with changing amount of cargo/type
-more complex locos (like the loco with B unit)
-so many other things

I will modify the tanker tomorrow, it needs a bit seach about the cargo ID-s of FIRS and ECS.
Ok then, for now lets just make the B units a seperate train, though, should code it so that you must use a A unit or a Cab Control Car for it to work

Edit : After doing some playing, I noticed that the EDP 23 ens up costing around close to 200,000 USD in the 80's and runs up 35,000 USD a year

Also, for a control cab, lets make a cabbage (NPCU) by using the EDP 23A Sprite and make it hold like 40 Bags of Mail

Info...
Cost : 6,000 USD
Name : MLD EDP - 23 NPCU
Manufacturer : Master Locomotive Division
Available : 1980
Weight : 80T
Capacity : 40 Bags of Mail
Refitable to : Mail, Gold, Valuables , Diamonds, Goods
Notes : Can be used as a control cab

Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [CODER NEEDED!]

Posted: 31 Aug 2009 20:18
by petert
As soon as possible, please add this to GRF crawler and BaNaNas, (don't yell at me if you already know about this) and just keep updating versions until final release.

Great Job!!!

Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [CODER NEEDED!]

Posted: 31 Aug 2009 20:26
by NekoMaster
petert wrote:As soon as possible, please add this to GRF crawler and BaNaNas, (don't yell at me if you already know about this) and just keep updating versions until final release.

Great Job!!!
Heh, its only in the milestone stages, once we get up to a functional set (having all defualt cargo types) Ill put this on BaNaNas, for now, you can download this from the first post of this thread, now off to make another creation :)

Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [CODER NEEDED!]

Posted: 31 Aug 2009 20:47
by NekoMaster
And another train for the masses :3
(MLD) AC 35 & AC 35B (DE) [Rail].png
(MLD) AC 35 & AC 35B (DE) [Rail].png (1.16 KiB) Viewed 1572 times
Name : MLD AC 35A (DE)
Manufacturer : Master Locomotive Division
Available : 1985 - 2010
Cost : $ 42,240 USD
Running Cost : $ 36,750 USD

Power : 3,500 HP
Weight : 150 Tonnes
Capacity : N\A
Max Speed : 112 MPH
Max Tractive Effort : 295 kN

Reliability : 82%
Life : 28 Years
Suitable for : Express Passenger and Goods
Pax Equipment : HEP From Separate Generator
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Name : MLD AC 35B (DE)
Manufacturer : Master Locomotive Division
Available : 1985 - 2005
Cost : $ 40,240 USD
Running Cost : $ 31,510 USD

Power : 3,500 HP
Weight : 140 Tonnes
Capacity : N\A
Max Speed : 112 MPH
Max Tractive Effort : 290 kN

Reliability : 82%
Life : 28 Years
Suitable for : Express Passenger and Goods
Pax Equipment : HEP From Separate Generator

Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [Coders\Artists Needed!\New Poll!]

Posted: 01 Sep 2009 18:29
by NekoMaster
And heres something to hual goods and food
(PCS) 60 Tonne Container Car [Rail].png
(PCS) 60 Tonne Container Car [Rail].png (1.26 KiB) Viewed 1447 times
Info...
Cost : 5,600 USD
Name : PCS 60T Container Wagon
Manufacturer : Pioneer Cargo Shipping
Available : 1960
Max Speed : 90MPH
Weight : 20T
Capacity : 60 Crates of goods (2 - 30T Containers (or) 1 - 30T, 2 - 15T)
Refitable to : Goods, Food, Engineering Supplies (FIRS), Surveying Supplies (FIRS), Parts (FIRS), Packaging (FIRS)

Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [Coders\Artists Needed!\New Poll!]

Posted: 03 Sep 2009 00:32
by NekoMaster
Ok, i stoped being lazy and made the full sprite sheet for the 3 bay hopper
(GRS) 3 Bay Hopper [RAIL].PNG
(GRS) 3 Bay Hopper [RAIL].PNG (2.73 KiB) Viewed 1289 times
Info...
Name : GRS 3 Bay Hopper
Manufacturer : Grand Rolling Stock
Available : 1935
Weight : 22T
Capacity : 40 Tonnes of Coal
Refitable to : Coal, Iron Ore, Sand (FIRS), Gravel (FIRS)

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Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [Coders\Artists Needed!\New Poll!]

Posted: 03 Sep 2009 04:38
by DJ Nekkid
why not simply bulk?

Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [Coders\Artists Needed!\New Poll!]

Posted: 03 Sep 2009 04:45
by NekoMaster
DJ Nekkid wrote:why not simply bulk?
What do you mean?

Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [Coders\Artists Needed!\New Poll!]

Posted: 03 Sep 2009 06:07
by planetmaker
NFO knows next to specific cargos also cargo classes. In case of doubt it's preferrable to only work with cargo classes for vehicle refit than with specific cargos - it makes thus sure that the set will stay compatible with future (new) cargos. Bulk cargo is one of those classes - and certainly IMO is exactly what would fit a hopper well.

Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [Coders\Artists Needed!\New Poll!]

Posted: 03 Sep 2009 06:09
by NekoMaster
planetmaker wrote:NFO knows next to specific cargos also cargo classes. In case of doubt it's preferrable to only work with cargo classes for vehicle refit than with specific cargos - it makes thus sure that the set will stay compatible with future (new) cargos. Bulk cargo is one of those classes - and certainly IMO is exactly what would fit a hopper well.
Well tell colossal how to do it as at the moment till we get another coder hes the coder and 2nd Artist of this Set

Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [Coders\Artists Needed!\New Poll!]

Posted: 03 Sep 2009 06:16
by planetmaker
NekoMaster wrote:
DJ Nekkid wrote:why not simply bulk?
What do you mean?
I was referring to this...
NekoMaster wrote:
planetmaker wrote:NFO knows next to specific cargos also cargo classes. In case of doubt it's preferrable to only work with cargo classes for vehicle refit than with specific cargos - it makes thus sure that the set will stay compatible with future (new) cargos. Bulk cargo is one of those classes - and certainly IMO is exactly what would fit a hopper well.
Well tell colossal how to do it as at the moment till we get another coder hes the coder and 2nd Artist of this Set
You do that. But any NFO coder won't find much of a way around using them.

Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [Coders\Artists Needed!\New Poll!]

Posted: 03 Sep 2009 06:33
by NekoMaster
NekoMaster wrote:
planetmaker wrote:NFO knows next to specific cargos also cargo classes. In case of doubt it's preferrable to only work with cargo classes for vehicle refit than with specific cargos - it makes thus sure that the set will stay compatible with future (new) cargos. Bulk cargo is one of those classes - and certainly IMO is exactly what would fit a hopper well.
Well tell colossal how to do it as at the moment till we get another coder hes the coder and 2nd Artist of this Set
You do that. But any NFO coder won't find much of a way around using them.[/quote]

Meh, I kinda dont understand what your saying, does that mean that BULK is a cargo type that you can assign cars?

Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [Coders\Artists Needed!\New Poll!]

Posted: 03 Sep 2009 06:38
by planetmaker
Exactly that is what DJN tried to say, yes.

You can specify cargo classes which you can load and others which you definitely cannot load. Any cargo in the "load" category but not in the "do not load" category are the cargos the wagon will be refittable to. A single cargo can be part of several classes (e.g. grains are bulk and covered, milk is liquid and refrigerated)
http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php ... sses_28_29_

Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [Coders\Artists Needed!\New Poll!]

Posted: 03 Sep 2009 06:40
by NekoMaster
planetmaker wrote:Exactly that is what DJN tried to say, yes.

You can specify cargo classes which you can load and others which you definitely cannot load. Any cargo in the "load" category but not in the "do not load" category are the cargos the wagon will be refittable to. A single cargo can be part of several classes (e.g. grains are bulk and covered, milk is liquid and refrigerated)
http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php ... sses_28_29_
Ahh!! THats good, what cargos in FIRS are considered BULK, that is, if you know...

Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [Coders\Artists Needed!\New Poll!]

Posted: 03 Sep 2009 06:45
by planetmaker

Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [Coders\Artists Needed!\New Poll!]

Posted: 03 Sep 2009 07:07
by NekoMaster
planetmaker wrote:Use the newgrf wiki :-) http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php ... rgo_Labels
Nice, thanks, Ill let colossal know later when hes back from school, damn, its still early too, his day is just starting :(

Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [Coders\Artists Needed!\New Poll!]

Posted: 04 Sep 2009 01:17
by petert
I would definitely recommend you update this link on the downloads page to this.
And if you can, try to keep archives of all the builds so people can download older versions.

And one more thing, is there a needed version for this to work? I usually use nightly, but for older users I'm asking. (I would also recommend that you include that in the first page page).

Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [Coders\Artists Needed!\New Poll!]

Posted: 04 Sep 2009 01:18
by NekoMaster
petert wrote:I would definitely recommend you update this link on the downloads page to this.
And if you can, try to keep archives of all the builds so people can download older versions.

And one more thing, is there a needed version for this to work? I usually use nightly, but for older users I'm asking. (I would also recommend that you include that in the first page page).
As far as i know, theres nothing really advanced about this, i was thinking of trying this on 0.5.3 on my PSP

Re: Generic Train Renewal Set [Coders\Artists Needed!\New Poll!]

Posted: 04 Sep 2009 01:32
by petert
OT:

Interesting that you have OpenTTD works on a PSP.