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Posted: 06 Apr 2007 21:23
by michael blunck
chevyrider wrote:Hi, builder Alsthom?
Yeah, that´s at least
one point. (Not two)
Dave Worley wrote:India?
No, sorry, Dave. Not India again.
Rollo wrote:Country: Iraq
Railway co.: Iraq Republic Railway
Line: ?
Gauge: Standard
Type: Diesel Hydraulic
Builder: Tulomsas
Location: Turkey
Hi, Rollo. Interesting guess. But no, it´s neither Iraq nor a Tülomsas type DH12000 (or DH10000). Sorry.
regards
Michael
Posted: 07 Apr 2007 00:02
by DanMacK
Good one Michael. This loco looks something like a beat up Alco C415 crossed with a GE heavy centrecab. It's neither though
country: Cameroon
railway co.: Camrail
line: Central Line?
gauge: metre Gauge
type: BB 1100?
builder: Alsthom/MTE
location: Yaounde
Posted: 07 Apr 2007 08:44
by michael blunck
DanMacK wrote:country: Cameroon
railway co.: Camrail
line: Central Line?
gauge: metre Gauge
type: BB 1100?
builder: Alsthom/MTE
location: Yaounde
Yeah, this shows me that you found that single Cameroon Railways page on the net. Seems that all that african stuff gets too easy meanwhile ...
Good one Michael. This loco looks something like a beat up Alco C415 crossed with a GE heavy centrecab. It's neither though
Correct, this is a BB diesel-electric jointly built by Alsthom and the former "Société MTE", which at that time was a subsidy of Jeumont-Schneider and Creusot-Loire, and was later incorporated into Alsthom.
Just some more information about Cameroon´s Railways:
Until WWI, (parts of) Cameroon had been a German colony, named "Kamerun". The Germans built a couple of meter-gauge railways, namely
- the 160km long Manengu- or Northern Railway, financed and built by the "Kamerun-Eisenbahn-Gesellschaft" (see attachment) between 1906 and 1911, connecting Duala with the Manengu Mountains at Nkongsamba,
- the "Central Railway" ("Mittellandbahn"), connecting Duala with Njone, some 280km building beginning in 1908 and reaching Bidjoka, km 150, in december 1913, later reaching Yaoundé (Jaunde, see attachment).
Nevertheless, the oldest railway in Kamerun was a plantation railway for the "Westafrikanische Pflanzungsgesellschaft Victoria" (WAPV) on the southern slopes of Mount Cameroon. Of this railway, there´s still one small steamer in existence at Tiko, the "Governor Ebermaier", a 10 tonnes, 0-8-0 Orenstein & Koppel, built in 1914 (build no. 7720):
http://www.gouverneur-ebermaier.de/fotos.htm
Good work, Dan. Your turn again.
regards
Michael
Posted: 07 Apr 2007 10:10
by Dave
Fantastic insight

I could listen to you talk railways for hours Michael!
Posted: 07 Apr 2007 10:20
by Griff
Dave Worley wrote:Fantastic insight

I could listen to you talk railways for hours Michael!
Get him onto Zernebok Radio and make him do a 'Railway Hour'
Posted: 07 Apr 2007 11:15
by DanMacK
Thanks Michael, I've gotta come up with a really good one now.
I actually found it by looking for "Alsthom MLW" on Google Images. The unit looksed vaguely Alco to me from the frame up. It isn't, but it has similar features. Interesting looking locos, that's for sure. I'm on a hunt, I'll post later today/tonight.
Posted: 07 Apr 2007 12:00
by michael blunck
Dave Worley wrote:I could listen to you talk railways for hours Michael!
Thanks for your interest, Dave. I´m increasingly interested in railway history. It´s a fine synthesis of diverse technological, historical, economical and socio-cultural developments. I wonder where we were without railways.
And african railways are very interesting, especially because of their colonial background. Unfortunately, only a small number of rolling stock has survived and even good photographies are rare.
DanMacK wrote:I actually found it by looking for "Alsthom MLW" on Google Images.
Well, then you´ve been lucky, because only because there were some MLWs on that page, google showed you that special picture. And it´s not even the exact picture in question which shows up but a slightly different one:
http://www.trainweb.org/railphot/0972-05w.jpg
Hehe.
regards
Michael
Posted: 07 Apr 2007 21:45
by DanMacK
New loco
I'm looking for:
Engine Name: (1 point)
Designer: (1 point)
Country: (1 point)
Year Built (rebuilt): (1 point)
*Type of loco before rebuild: (2 points)
*Type of loco after rebuild: (2 points)
* By type I mean wheel arrangement.
Posted: 07 Apr 2007 22:00
by Dave
It's a boat!
Posted: 07 Apr 2007 22:46
by jonnie47
lol looks like canada to me
Posted: 07 Apr 2007 23:12
by DanMacK
Nope, not Canada...
Posted: 08 Apr 2007 01:42
by Flavius
Engine Name: 'Argentina'
Designer: L.D.Porta
Country: Argentina
Year Built (rebuilt): 1948
Type of loco before rebuild: 4-6-2
Type of loco after rebuild: 4-8-0
Posted: 08 Apr 2007 08:24
by michael blunck
Rollo wrote:Engine Name: 'Argentina'
Yeah, Rollo is right. The definitive site is here:
http://www.martynbane.co.uk/modernsteam ... na/arg.htm. I´ve considered the "Argentina" myself before, but in the end I thought it´d be too easy for us.
Nevertheless, I have a growing feeling that time zones begin to play a key role in posting/guessing trains ...
regards
Michael
Posted: 10 Apr 2007 00:24
by DanMacK
Nice one Rollo, as usual.
I think Michael's right. I thought the "Argentina" was sort of distinctive too, but ater Rollo got the Bermuda Railway so easily, I was at a loss, that one was my trump card
Looks like it's Rollo's turn and looks like I'm going to have to find another train

Posted: 10 Apr 2007 01:22
by Flavius
Hi DanMacK
Thank you. The only clue i had was the badge and logo. It was not USA style as they were into Art Deco. So for me it had to be somewhere else but where
I found it eventually by typing "streamlined locomotives" into Google.
After about 7 pages a related graphic to the website Michael refered to caught my attention.
Clearly one of the excesses of the Peron Era.
I will post the new Guess shortly as i have one in mind.

Posted: 11 Apr 2007 19:27
by ssbn742
post something amercan please, im only good at US trains (and know most of them).
Posted: 11 Apr 2007 20:39
by jonnie47
no point in posting english everubody no them

Posted: 11 Apr 2007 20:44
by michael blunck
Possibly a german one this time?
regards
Michael
Posted: 11 Apr 2007 21:41
by Dave
I'm waiting for someone to post a British one that I completely overlook after all these times where I've gone "THAT LOOKS BRITISH!"
It will happen

Posted: 11 Apr 2007 21:47
by michael blunck