Coxx wrote:Great to see some progress on this lovely set again. Extending it into the past is definitly a good idea, the steamers are to nice to replace them so early. But I wouldn´t go as far as 1848, it changes gameplay considerably.
I know it´s under construction, but I hope my observations might be helpfull.
Some locos are to be used on highspeed services only, but look like ordinary ones, some are even the same model (like 319), a short info would be good for those unfamiliar with spanish trains. Otherwise they may wonder why a loco is offered two times for different prices. Some locos don´t have running cost yet (319, 353, 252, 100 AVE, Talgo XXI, 104 AVE, 103 AVE, 102 AVE, TRAVCA)
Some things I noticed about cargo translation of freightcars (ECS):
Talgo I and XXI are refitable to many cargos like coal, steel, iron ore.
boxcars: small boxcar not refitable, trap-sided car introduced 1977, medium and large boxcar 1980. Medium heavier than large one. They should be refitable to fruit, (glass, wool, paper, cereals, dyes, fertilizer?).
flatcars: food, wool, glass, dyes, fertilizer, fibre crops maybe better transported on other cars? Container carrier is refitable to oil, livestock and gasoline.
hoppers: maybe should not be refitable to fruit, (food?) but wood, wood products and bricks, large hopper might carry coal and iron ore, but not gold and fruit. Closed hopper only transports cereals.
tankers: short tanker refitable to livestock
autorack: default cargo refined products. (as mentioned above)
Some cargos are currently carried by only one car: cement (short hoper), paper (flatcar), no early car for fish.
Otherwise it seems to be fine. (tested on Ottd r16269, all ECS vectors beta 5)
Thanks for your suggestions. There are lots of things to fix.
Coxx wrote:tankers: short tanker refitable to livestock
Yes, It is milk (as cargo subtype). My idea is that if there is "milk" as cargo, disallow livestock on tankers, and allow milk as cargo. The problem is that this idea does not work with the autorack and I don't know where is the problem, or how to fix it.
Coxx wrote:boxcars: small boxcar not refitable, trap-sided car introduced 1977, medium and large boxcar 1980. Medium heavier than large one. They should be refitable to fruit, (glass, wool, paper, cereals, dyes, fertilizer?).
I think the same thing. It should allow too many cargos.
Coxx wrote:Some cargos are currently carried by only one car: cement (short hoper), paper (flatcar), no early car for fish.
I don't know how paper is transported in real world. In original game, the paper rolls was transported in flatcars. For cement, I prefer use closed wagons, because cement can't be transported in opened hoppers. Fish should be transported in the boxcars.
Coxx wrote:flatcars: food, wool, glass, dyes, fertilizer, fibre crops maybe better transported on other cars? Container carrier is refitable to oil, livestock and gasoline.
Yes, if You refit a flatcar in liquid cargo, It is converted in a tanker. But this tank disappears when the wagon is empty (Maybe I will change this).
Coxx wrote:hoppers: maybe should not be refitable to fruit, (food?) but wood, wood products and bricks, large hopper might carry coal and iron ore, but not gold and fruit. Closed hopper only transports cereals.
As You said, some usages are a bit strange (I see fruit better on boxes and closed wagons), but I prefer keep these usages for hoppers, and allow fruit in boxcars. Also, hoppers should be covered in movement (and uncovered when loading). This would need new sprites, the NFO code can be easily modified. The small hopper can be uncovered (It was for the early years), but It should have a speed limit. This is a covered fruit truck:
Cement should be transported only in closed wagons (small bags,
big bags...) and closed hoppers like this truck (link warning: annoying window resizer page):
Closed hoppers should allow more cargos, and allow more speed.
There are more details, for example, first Talgo trains should run over convectional tracks, because they are diesel engines, and the first high speed train in Spain was a train based on TGV Atlantique (Renfe class 100) in 1992. Also, some trains should have the sparks in the rear pantograph.
To finish, there are some impossible changes (for now): There are trains that can run over convectional electrified tracks and high speed tracks with a variable axes gauge system. This can't be implemented for the moment, and these trains only runs over one track type. Also, I would like add more sparks to the pantograph at high speeds.