European Cargo Set (ECS) - PROJECT LEADER NEEDED!

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 28 May 2004 08:02

Colonel32 wrote:Petr Vanek agreed, we are free to use his graphics. ... THIS one is done.

Do we have an NFO file too? (or GRF)

Colonel32 wrote:2 Purno: Ad: Compost
It seems to me that the photo shows diferently than how you drew it.
I tried to explain my thought in a painting, hope it's understandable

I do not know exactly what you mean, but when I took a closer look at my VAM Compost Car (#17), I saw an a small mistake, so I changed that. I hope you ment the same.

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Excel sheet is updated again. I'll post it in a few minutes.

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 28 May 2004 08:34

Ad: Habilns NFO or GRF
That is a problem. While alpatesting single wagons, Petr still runs on MB's cargoset, and just changing images, and even if we were allowed to use MB's spreadsheet, the problem with Habilns is that I had to redraw (under Petr's suggestion) some of these cars, which changed their size.

broodje · Post by **broodje** » 28 May 2004 08:40

did anywone think about what should be transported by the set? Eg what does the VAM car transport? and from where to where? There is nothing that could produce compost, unless you want to play like the forests do produce compost, but then you end up transporting wood in a compost car to a paperworks/swamill.
so shouldn't there be a litle diagram what types of imaginary cargo there should be. And make sure you leave enough ID's open for engines+pasenger cars

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 28 May 2004 08:41

Kompost

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 28 May 2004 08:42

broodje wrote:did anywone think about what should be transported by the set? Eg what does the VAM car transport? and from where to where? There is nothing that could produce compost, unless you want to play like the forests do produce compost, but then you end up transporting wood in a compost car to a paperworks/swamill.
so shouldn't there be a litle diagram what types of imaginary cargo there should be.

We have two options I think:

1. Change cargo types (and industry names)

2. Let all kind of cars transport existing cargo types (VAM can transport Goods or something). This isn't very realistic, but that's the only disadvantage of this option I think.

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 28 May 2004 08:43

Ad: Cargo
shouldn't be souch a problem. If it can't transport anything, it will transport goods. (same as my cement carriges)

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 28 May 2004 08:47

Colonel32, thanks! I finally know what you mean

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Purno · Post by **Purno** » 28 May 2004 08:48

Colonel32 wrote:If it can't transport anything, it will transport goods.

Or more, we have refit option

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 28 May 2004 08:49

2 Purno:
The compost car looks pretty cool. (I love green color)

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 28 May 2004 08:52

Colonel32 wrote:2 Purno:
The compost car looks pretty cool.

Thanks

(I love green color)

I think we could use more colors in the cargo carriages.

All we have is a green car (#17), a blue car (#6), a white car (#3c) and loads of brown and red cars. Besides that we've Raven's sprites, but I've only seen them in _ view.

EDIT: Besides that we only have cargo cars from the Czech Republic, Germany and the Netherlands. (Except from #7). We could use some more countries.

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 28 May 2004 09:10

suggestion:

Hadgs/Zav (standard closed 4-axle) CD, CZ, red, brown, weight: 25 tons, capacity: 55 tons, transports: Goods, Grain, drawn:Colonel32

Ibbhps (standard closed 2-axle freezer) CD, CZ, white, ivory, weight: 19 tons, capacity: 17 tons, transports: Goods, Food, drawn:Petr Vanek

Saskia · Post by **Saskia** » 28 May 2004 09:13

For more colors, take a look at the Märklin (or other) catalogue or at http://www.maerklin.de or http://www.maerklin.com

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 28 May 2004 09:17

Purno wrote:Besides that we only have cargo cars from the Czech Republic, Germany and the Netherlands. (Except from #7). We could use some more countries.

What about posting a request to the public, for suggestions for European Cargo Carriages?

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 28 May 2004 09:34

Suggestions:

Gbgs (standard, 2-axle, closed, CD, CZ, red, brown,W:15tons, C:25tons, T:Goods, D:Colonel32

Gbqs (standard, 2-axle, closed, CD, CZ, green, blue, W:15tons, C:25tons, T:Mail, D:Colonel32

the point with theese is that they are basicaly the same, but their cargo changes their name, also the post cars are both green and blue, so unless the "choose liverty" option is finished before this set is, we could do it the way that Gbgs would be refittable to mail and it woul change to blue, while Gbqs woul be only for mail and only green

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 28 May 2004 09:45

1. My last messages seems to be ignored.

2. Colonel32, it's really great you want to draw that much cargo carriages, but this isn't a Czech Cargo Set. We need more cargo carriages from other countries.

3. I've some suggestions, I will add them to the list. (I will upload the list after I've add these.)

NMBS/SNCB HM "Fals" Green (Belgium)

NMBS/SNCB ECC Tanker (Belgium)

ÖBB Gbs in unusual blue color (Austria)

ÖBB Flat wagon (Austria)

Flat car for transportation of switches (Finland)

OCE "Zaces" tank car (Greece)

FS Hbbillns (Italy)

Interfrigo (Italy)

SJ Hbbins (Sweden)

SBB Laas (Switserland)

Private Owner Stone Hopper (Great Britain)

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 28 May 2004 09:54

Purno wrote:2. Colonel32, it's really great you want to draw that much cargo carriages, but this isn't a Czech Cargo Set. We need more cargo carriages from other countries.

All those I have suggested are more widely used - you suggested a green Fals - I suggested a red and a brown one, you suggested a Gbs, which I allready did either. From what I suggested was only the Uacs/Raj a Czech republic specific.

AND BTW: I come with all the nescessary informations for those I suggest.

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 28 May 2004 10:42

I'll be away and offline during the weekend, but I'll have a notebook with me, so I'll try to finish the Falls, Gbg and Hadgs.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 28 May 2004 10:45

Colonel32 wrote:I'll be away and offline during the weekend, but I'll have a notebook with me, so I'll try to finish the Falls, Gbg and Hadgs.

Okay, good luck.

I'll be offline too in the weekend (and Monday). I'm back on Tuesday. See you then!

Saskia · Post by **Saskia** » 28 May 2004 12:11

Dito.

I'll quickly code a online management system for train sets, that's better than ever updating an XLS table, and other developers can contribute information directly. It will be available to us on tuesday on my webspace, for cargo and passenger set

So long, happy weekend

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 28 May 2004 12:16

Saskia wrote:Dito.

I'll quickly code a online management system for train sets, that's better than ever updating an XLS table, and other developers can contribute information directly. It will be available to us on tuesday on my webspace, for cargo and passenger set

Thanks that would be great!!! Just post the link when it's finished!

Saskia wrote:So long, happy weekend

Happy weekend to you too

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