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Posted: 24 May 2004 07:32
by Purno
Bernhard wrote:with two noses!
Oh that one

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Posted: 24 May 2004 09:30
by Saskia
BR 614 is allright. The DABz could get in, because of their epoch 4 livery, but the regioswinger is really too new *wah* We have to leave it out or to make a compromise ... but I don't know how. The 612 is very very new and looks so, too ... but don't we have enough S-Bahn/regio vehicles:
420
427
624 or 634
628
614
471
472
and one or both
425
427
Posted: 24 May 2004 09:58
by Purno
Why do you only want epoch 3/4 trains into the DB-passenger set???
Posted: 24 May 2004 11:32
by Saskia
Because the modern trains look all the same and have all the same silly color (Lego-red). The DB is unspectacular and boring today ...

When I play, I even set the time back at the beginning of the 90s

And another point is, that there are so many new vehicles in the last 10 years, that we would break the limit of veh-IDs. And this set would look like a 2nd DB set XL. Remember, the goal is to include many vehicles of a specific period. If we wouldn't follow that, we could never include "unimportant" vehicles like BR 202 (google or vehicle table) or a special S-Bahn livery, or ET 401 (google or table again).
How about that: we do this set, and if we have spare IDs at the end, some e. 5 vehicles could get in. Or we do another set like this, but e. 5

Posted: 24 May 2004 12:59
by Purno
Saskia wrote:How about that: we do this set, and if we have spare IDs at the end, some e. 5 vehicles could get in. Or we do another set like this, but e. 5

Deal!
Posted: 24 May 2004 13:42
by krtaylor
Saskia wrote: And another point is, that there are so many new vehicles in the last 10 years, that we would break the limit of veh-IDs.
You're kidding, there are more than 90 vehicles?
Posted: 24 May 2004 13:52
by Saskia
No, but if you add them to the epoch 3/4 vehicles, it may be

Posted: 24 May 2004 16:06
by Purno
Maybe there should come a ID list, like the Dutch Trainset has. It contains info about all trains that are going to be included, who draws them, which ID they use, vehicle stats, etc.
Once we have a list of all vehicles that are going to be included we can see how much IDs are used and how much IDs are free.
Posted: 24 May 2004 16:13
by krtaylor
Good idea. That way also you can reconcile it with other things, like the possible European cargo set.
Posted: 25 May 2004 08:07
by Purno
Besides that people can start drawing or coding when we have that list!
Posted: 25 May 2004 08:41
by Saskia
The table I linked here before and again:
http://mitglied.lycos.de/kleinesaski/ttd/passet/
*g* already contains a few vehicles without sprites, like the TRs. And the TRs with sprite are only available in this side view you can see
I also agree with the veh ID thingy, but there are some decisions to make before, like if we really want to include 211 AND 212, or 216 AND 218, or 219 (218 with additional gas turbine

) instead of 216 or 218, and so on.
Posted: 25 May 2004 08:46
by Purno
1. I took a look at the table and I'm interested in drawing the BR 232 V320 and BR 420.
2. Until now only one of my trains is in the table: The VT 133 Railbus. But it's image don't appear
EDIT: I'm interested in drawing the BR 202 DE 2500 too.
Posted: 25 May 2004 09:23
by George
I prefer
Transrapid 09 (Electric)
BR182 (Electric)
ICE 3 (Electric)
ICE-TD (Diesel)
DE-AC33C 'Blue Tiger' (Diesel)
BR 101 (Electric)
ICE 1 (Electric)
BR120 (Electric)
BR232 (Diesel)
BR103 (Electric)
V160 (Diesel)
BR150 (Electric)
VT-11 (Diesel)
BR140 (Electric)
ET-30 (Electric)
V200 (Diesel)
VT-08 (Diesel)
BR144 (Electric)
V140 (Diesel)
BR45 (Steam)
VT-137 (Diesel)
BR175 (Electric)
BR18 (Steam)
Posted: 25 May 2004 10:01
by Saskia
Purno wrote:1. I took a look at the table and I'm interested in drawing the BR 232 V320 and BR 420.
2. Until now only one of my trains is in the table: The VT 133 Railbus. But it's image don't appear
EDIT: I'm interested in drawing the BR 202 DE 2500 too.
Ok, draw what you want

Table updated ...
Posted: 25 May 2004 10:12
by Purno
Somethings about the table:
1. Could you link images into a new window?
2. Could you convert photos into jpg or something? There are big, I just could copy 3 of them zipped on a disk.
3. Could you post a link to the table somewhere in your sig or something, then I wouldn't have to search for your last post.. ehmmm.. post before that.. or.. (you what the problem is?)
Posted: 25 May 2004 10:20
by Saskia
1. Hm ... if you wish
2. The photos
are in jpeg. What you notice is a bug in IE, that it sometimes saves pictures as bmp. You better should avoid this "browser"
3. Done

Posted: 25 May 2004 10:54
by pETe!
Saskia wrote:
2. The photos
are in jpeg. What you notice is a bug in IE, that it sometimes saves pictures as bmp. You better should avoid this "browser"
It isn´t a bug, its a feature, yes, it is!
Well, if you choose "save piczure as..." you have to choose the corect filetype in the dropdown under the filename.
Posted: 25 May 2004 11:10
by Saskia
I mean the bug, that you sometimes can't choose, and only bmp is available in this box.

Posted: 25 May 2004 18:55
by Raven
But you need no box!, jsut write .whatever and you can get the type of file you want
Posted: 25 May 2004 22:05
by pETe!
Ähh, neee ?!?!
If you write .png, i´ll bet IE will save in orgiginal format or in .bmp
AFAIK you can *allways* choose the originasl format and bmp...