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Hello Guys,
I would really love to download the dutch trainset, but it doest work from the website http://users.tt-forums.net/dutchset/downloads.php
As soon as I try to download the set, it errors on the website... Any idea?
Ah, I didn't understand that from your post...jobt wrote:thanks for the efforts, but I actually meant the grf itself
In the Netherlands 1.5kV DC is used for the catenary, the German network is 15kV AC and HSL-Zuid is 25kV AC. As described in the ICE-3 specs tells that for DC the maximum speed is 220 km/h and for AC it is 330 km/h. So yes, it can go only 220 km/h in the Netherlands as I can't find documentation that states it supports the signalling system used on the HSL-Zuid line.OllyG wrote:1. Why is the ICE-3 restricted to a maximum speed of 220kph? Is this the maximum it can go in the Netherlands?
Your guess is true. EMUs don't have mail departments nowadays, so they don't have those ingame either. If you want to transport mail, you'll have to use a engine with wagons consist. And those wagons have speed limits (though I believe that's a setting in OTTD itself which can be deactivated). There's no fast express mail transport in the Netherlands, so there isn't any in the set either. We chose to make the set realistic, there's plenty of other sets which focus on gameplay. You can always play a game with multiple trainset and 'steal' a fast mail wagon from that set.OllyG wrote:2. There are a number of passenger trains / locomotives which do not allow you to include mail vans in the formation, or, when you do, the train is restricted to the mail car's speed, rather than the car assuming the speed of the rest of the train.
Eg. the 1990s double-decker EMU, all high-speed trains and the TRAXX locomotive (which accepts passenger-haulage, but without mail cars).
I'm guessing this is for realism, in that, these days, mail is transported using dedicated trains (or by lorry: pah!). But, in terms of OTTD, I find it only makes sense to have dedicated mail trains when cities get really big.
Purno wrote:Your guess is true. EMUs don't have mail departments nowadays, so they don't have those ingame either. If you want to transport mail, you'll have to use a engine with wagons consist. And those wagons have speed limits (though I believe that's a setting in OTTD itself which can be deactivated). There's no fast express mail transport in the Netherlands, so there isn't any in the set either. We chose to make the set realistic, there's plenty of other sets which focus on gameplay. You can always play a game with multiple trainset and 'steal' a fast mail wagon from that set.OllyG wrote:2. There are a number of passenger trains / locomotives which do not allow you to include mail vans in the formation, or, when you do, the train is restricted to the mail car's speed, rather than the car assuming the speed of the rest of the train.
Eg. the 1990s double-decker EMU, all high-speed trains and the TRAXX locomotive (which accepts passenger-haulage, but without mail cars).
I'm guessing this is for realism, in that, these days, mail is transported using dedicated trains (or by lorry: pah!). But, in terms of OTTD, I find it only makes sense to have dedicated mail trains when cities get really big.
I guess you're referring to the HSA? At the point we released the Dutch Trainset, the HSA still was a plan for the future. So, if we wanted to include it, we'd have to guess a few things. One of these was the speed, but also the graphics are based purely on a concept-art picture. Since it was a futuristic thing anyways, we could use this a little to introduce a nice fast train for OpenTTD games, it'd be good for gameplay and we can't aim for realism with the HSA anywaysOllyG wrote: I take the realism point, although I would note that the Netherlands does not at present have high-speed trains which can go at 283mph!
How is this related to for example the DBsetXL? The Czech trainset and the Spanish trainsets have got some quick-loading trains as well, which makes them perfect for timetabling.DJ Nekkid wrote:they will in 2.0
8 and 20 respectivly (highspeed/regional)
Purno wrote:I guess you're referring to the HSA? At the point we released the Dutch Trainset, the HSA still was a plan for the future. So, if we wanted to include it, we'd have to guess a few things. One of these was the speed, but also the graphics are based purely on a concept-art picture. Since it was a futuristic thing anyways, we could use this a little to introduce a nice fast train for OpenTTD games, it'd be good for gameplay and we can't aim for realism with the HSA anywaysOllyG wrote: I take the realism point, although I would note that the Netherlands does not at present have high-speed trains which can go at 283mph!
However, if you're having objections against a 283mph train, you can simply choose not to buy it.
btw, if you're going for realism, why use mph and not km/h?
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Thanks for the heads-up: it's the same and there are indeed some errorsTransportman wrote:The downloadpage lists some other names as The Dutch Trainset Team. The link to the actual file doesn't work (lot of warnings and an error). Or is this another version? It is released on the same day, so I assume it is the same.
. The reason Szappy was credited there was because of his GRFMaker tool that Purno used. Or (looking at Purno) did Szappy code too? Singaporekid made some steam engines earlier in the set devleopment. I'm not 100% sure his steam locomotives made it to v1.0 though.Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests
