Swedish trains by AndersI (and others) - upd 2009-05-24

[michael blunck]

This is not really helpful because it won´t fix the original "bug" in Anders´ development copy. Especially not because he´s developing the set in grfmaker. In addition, uploading modified files might collide with the license of the set.

Just document the bug (and possibly the fix).

regards
Michael

[AndersI]

Well, it is helpful that I get informed of the problem! And it helps other OTTD users directly, they don't have to wait for me doing the change.

But I think the Iore should not be an articulated engine at all. IRL, the two units are identical and it can be run in any combination from 1 to 4 units, so I think that's the change I will do in my set. Then you just add units manually until you're satisfied.

[daBorg]

This is not really helpful because it won´t fix the original "bug" in Anders´ development copy. Especially not because he´s developing the set in grfmaker. In addition, uploading modified files might collide with the license of the set.

Sorry, I wasn't even aware that there is a program like grfmaker. Anyway, I', fully aware of the license problem, but this set is distributed with the GPL (at least if you download it from bananas), so I didn't see a problem here. Moreover, the last update of the set was six months? ago, so I just didn't want to wait for the next release to use the Iore .

But I think the Iore should not be an articulated engine at all. IRL, the two units are identical and it can be run in any combination from 1 to 4 units, so I think that's the change I will do in my set. Then you just add units manually until you're satisfied.

I like that idea, if you don't mind I might take a look at how to implement it, although I could only hack the nfo-file directly...

regards

daBorg

[AndersI]

if you don't mind I might take a look at how to implement it, although I could only hack the nfo-file directly...

Or you could download GRFMaker (assuming you have Windows) - link is in my sig. I can send you the GRFMaker project for the Swedish trains if you're interested. It is always good when more than one person can fix bugs in a grf.

[daBorg]

if you don't mind I might take a look at how to implement it, although I could only hack the nfo-file directly...

Or you could download GRFMaker (assuming you have Windows) - link is in my sig. I can send you the GRFMaker project for the Swedish trains if you're interested. It is always good when more than one person can fix bugs in a grf.

That would be nice, if you mail it I'll have a look.

[shlstrm]

I'm having transparency trouble (roofs, especially, didn't check much else...). Didn't matter if I downgraded from OpenTTD 1.0.2 to 1.0.0, no other grf's activated. Don't know if it matters that I'm running it on Linux. The grf was downloaded from the built-in download manager, I should try grab the grf from here directly, however, I can't see why it would matter much.

I've played with older version of OpenTTD and the Swedish trains grf, so I don't know what the error might be...

This grf is really coming together! Love it!

[AndersI]

Thanks for using Swedish trains!

I'm having transparency trouble (roofs, especially, didn't check much else...).

Somewhere in OTTD (NewGRF dialog?) you can switch every GRF between the Windows and DOS palettes. Swedish trains is using the Windows palette, and if it is set to DOS in OTTD I believe you get these kinds of problems.

[shlstrm]

Somewhere in OTTD (NewGRF dialog?) you can switch every GRF between the Windows and DOS palettes. Swedish trains is using the Windows palette, and if it is set to DOS in OTTD I believe you get these kinds of problems.

Ok, so how's this for strangeness: So I remove the in-game downloaded grf and put the grf from the forum post in the data directory, and everything worked like a charm in 1.0.0 and 1.0.2. Both set to windows palette. If the palette is DOS, the transparency problems are there, as you pointed out. So I figured, something is wrong with the palette from the in-game version of the grf.

I removed everything, installed 1.0.2 again and downloaded the grf from within OpenTTD. The palette is set to windows but the transparency problems are there again! If I switch the palette to DOS, it looks proper. That's kind of weird!

[SAC]

What's the progress with your set Anders? I'm aware real life must come first, and then of course it's also this "LEGO business" on top of everything...

It would be nice to get rid of MB's DBXL-set, (no offense Michael ), and have only swedish freight/cargo wagons...

[michael blunck]

[...] It would be nice to get rid of MB's DBXL-set, (no offense Michael ), and have only swedish freight/cargo wagons...

Yeah, it´s a pity ...

regards
Michael

[AndersI]

What's the progress with your set Anders?

Irwe has done a lot of different goods on freight cars, we're still 'working' on the tank cars. As always, real life takes much more time than initially alotted to it

I don't promise anything, but I *want* to release more - but there's so much LEGO in the world (must go and get it!)...

[SAC]

Yeah, it´s a pity ...

regards
Michael

I know... You have the best freight/cargo wagons at the moment, and that's why I use them - at least til a complete Swedish alternative si available...

I don't promise anything, but I *want* to release more - but there's so much LEGO in the world (must go and get it!)...

Well, put the Lego on the shelves for a bit already... It won't go away, unless your wife is totally sick and tired of it...

[andythenorth]

I don't promise anything, but I *want* to release more - but there's so much LEGO in the world (must go and get it!)...

http://ttfoundry.wordpress.com/2010/07/ ... -by-10016/

[SAC]

Gee thanks... just what he needed!!! Even more LEGO inspiration...

[AndersI]

Don't worry! I'm not into LEGO trains (don't have the wallet or space for it). But for the moment I'm heavily into GBC modules (Great Ball Contraption - modules that transport LEGO footballs) - here's my #6: The Pinball Machine:

[SAC]

Yeah, nice...

Now, move to the drawing table...

[Irwe]

Now, move to the drawing table...

Agreed! I think we should finish these tankers AndersI. I have some spare time now for a week or so, I'm happy to help like always

[Mpet]

Swedish trains is using the Windows palette, and if it is set to DOS in OTTD I believe you get these kinds of problems.

In my case, problems with transparency solves only in DOS palette. =)

I have some problem with IORE. When I try to couple some wagons for this loco he behaves like a EMU. First section at the front of consist, second at the end of train. =)

Thanks for pack!

[alxfa]

I have that transparacy problem too with the classic blue engine, it seems like theres no difference if i go to the grf settings and change palette to either DOS or Windows...

[SAC]

Are you using Swedish Trains by AndersI along with a cargo set such as ECS, only to find that you can't buy trains to transport certain cargos in game? This is due to not all available cargos in, for instance, the ECS set not fully supported by Swedish Trains. But here's a little trick to get around this problem;

If you like me also use Swedish Trains along with Michael Bluncks DBXL-set, (a second train set is necessary), in game simply disable Swedish Trains and have a closer look at the freight carriages available left with only the DBXL set present, (basically which ones doesn't transforms into an engine or a passenger car or similar due to the ID's being used by the Swedish Trains set once applying Swedish Trains again) - although, ignore if you notice that a specific freight carriage from Swedish Trains has turned into an engine or similar once disabling that set for this purpose!

When you're satisfied with your choices, buy a train and add the freight carriages you wish to use, (and that you are sure of turns into freight carriages of any kind once applying Swedish Trains again - if not already). The next step, and this is the most important one, is to refit the train to suit the cargo you want your train to transport. Once done, simply apply Swedish Trains again and you'll find that the freight carriages you couldn't use to transport, lets say wool when you tried to buy the train before disabling Swedish Trains, is now refitted for this particular cargo. Want yet another train of the same kind? Simply clone it and the freight cars, normally not supporting the cargo in question, are automatically refitted for the cargo type. No need to disable Swedish Trains for this last step.

Another side effect is that, given that you disable Swedish Trains first, you can buy and refit certain freight carriages to transport cargos they usually weren't made to transport in the first place. But it gives some extra options...


I haven't tested this with other train or cargo sets out there though, so I have no idea whether it will work with other sets. But this little nifty trick will at least buy some extra time while waiting for AndersI to leave his LEGO studies...