Invisible engine for leaving wagons on a side track (UPD)

AndersI · Post by **AndersI** » 02 Dec 2007 21:22

Just for the fun of it, I created an invisible train engine

With the help of this, I can put unused wagons on a side track:

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Edit1 2007-12-03: Updated to diesel
Edit2 2007-12-03: Now shows small engine while running. Stop and switch direction and the engine will disappear.

michael blunck · Post by **michael blunck** » 02 Dec 2007 21:33

AndersI wrote:Just for the fun of it, I created an invisible train engine

You´re not the first ...

Last one who did it was Bernhard:

http://www.tt-ms.de/forum/attachment.php?aid=649

regards
Michael

Ameecher · Post by **Ameecher** » 02 Dec 2007 21:52

I was going to do something like this but never got round to it or suggesting it. The fact that two other people did it is most excellent!

AndersI · Post by **AndersI** » 02 Dec 2007 21:59

michael blunck wrote:You´re not the first ...

I didn't think so, but I couldn't find anything by searching the forum, so I thought: Why not?

BTW, is it possible to have different graphics for a running train and a stopped one? I would like to have a little shunter doing to job, and then disappear when I park the train.

Maedhros · Post by **Maedhros** » 02 Dec 2007 22:07

AndersI wrote:BTW, is it possible to have different graphics for a running train and a stopped one? I would like to have a little shunter doing to job, and then disappear when I park the train.

You should be able to use vehicle variable B2, bit 1.

DanMacK · Post by **DanMacK** » 03 Dec 2007 00:05

I like the idea

At the moment though, it only works with electrics

I'd suggest making it a diesel. Aside from that, excellent idea.

Samwise · Post by **Samwise** » 03 Dec 2007 08:05

Great concept!

Now I can finally do this..

wallyweb · Post by **wallyweb** » 03 Dec 2007 12:19

AndersI wrote:Just for the fun of it, I created an invisible train engine

I'm looking forward to this, but I'm with DanMack ... make it a diesel ... not all sidings are electrified, especially in freight yards.

Another question ... compatibility with other sets ... Do I have to give up using an engine in each of CanSet, NARS, UKRS, Serbian, .... etc.? Where does it fit in?

michael blunck · Post by **michael blunck** » 03 Dec 2007 13:28

wallyweb wrote:Do I have to give up using an engine in each of CanSet, NARS, UKRS, Serbian, .... etc.? Where does it fit in?

All these sets could easily provide that functionality as well. If you (and the .grf authors) would really like to include that "feature".

regards
Michael

wallyweb · Post by **wallyweb** » 03 Dec 2007 13:45

michael blunck wrote:All these sets could easily provide that functionality as well. If you (and the .grf authors) would really like to include that "feature".

True ... If a set wants to support it they can include a version in their engine list ... with appropriate credits of course.

Now I almost forgot a most important question: Does it come in company colours?

I'll go hide now, very far away.

Ameecher · Post by **Ameecher** » 03 Dec 2007 14:20

Ha, trying to sell this thing is pretty damn hard...

wallyweb · Post by **wallyweb** » 03 Dec 2007 14:52

Ameecher wrote:Ha, trying to sell this thing is pretty damn hard...

Why sell it? Just point it on a line crossing your opponent's line ... they'll never know what hit 'em.

AndersI · Post by **AndersI** » 03 Dec 2007 17:17

Glad you like it! I've changed to a diesel engine instead of electric. First post updated.

Ameecher wrote:Ha, trying to sell this thing is pretty damn hard...

You should try sending a number of them out on the lines without a schedule. Could be used to simulate signaling problems

Ameecher · Post by **Ameecher** » 03 Dec 2007 18:21

My networks invariably have enough problems as it is without adding more! Nice idea though

AndersI · Post by **AndersI** » 03 Dec 2007 21:11

Maedhros wrote:You should be able to use vehicle variable B2, bit 1.

Worked like a charm! The only snag is that you have to change direction of the train after stopping it, to make the engine disappear. No big deal. First post updated again.

BTW, I'm using ID 73 for the moment, but there shouldn't really be any problems making that a parameter of the GRF. That will have to wait until I'm completely satisfied with everything else, as GrfMaker isn't the tool of choice for doing that (easiest done in the plain NFO code).

Post by **Dave** » 04 Dec 2007 07:36

AndersI wrote:Glad you like it! I've changed to a diesel engine instead of electric. First post updated.

Ameecher wrote:Ha, trying to sell this thing is pretty damn hard...
You should try sending a number of them out on the lines without a schedule. Could be used to simulate signaling problems

Genius!

Brilliant idea!

ColdIce · Post by **ColdIce** » 04 Dec 2007 08:56

This is the sh...

I like it.. I`ve just tested with US set and works just fine! (tested in OT) and with the selling problem: the only way is to use the option "Sell all trains in the depot"!
Could you increase the speed? It takes too much to move!

Sir A. Boey · Post by **Sir A. Boey** » 04 Dec 2007 18:05

Great feature, always wanted something like that superb

AndersI · Post by **AndersI** » 04 Dec 2007 18:15

ColdIce wrote:and with the selling problem: the only way is to use the option "Sell all trains in the depot"!
Could you increase the speed? It takes too much to move!

I have no problems clicking the 'engine' and dragging it to the right to sell it?? (TTDP)

The speed must be so low to 'encourage' people not to actually use it in 'real' trains (as it has very low costs). Also, when running around in a switchyard trains can't go very fast...

Ameecher · Post by **Ameecher** » 04 Dec 2007 18:18

the speed is fine since most the time it isn't going to move anywhere.

Re: selling. When I click and drag something in the depot it drags the image of the train, minus the cursor/pointer. As the train as such, has no image so it's difficult to tell where the train is in relation to the dustbin.
I'm sure I'll cope though

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