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Post by Redirect Left » 19 Sep 2006 21:49

Yup, i eagerly await 2.8.5 :D
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Post by MJS » 19 Sep 2006 22:37

I believe it has been updated to 2.8.5, even though it still reads 2.8.0 - it now has filled ttdpatch.cfg with additional lines reading 'basic=off' and 'industriescargo=off', none of which are recognized by TTDpatch. Or is this a feature of the newest nightly?

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Post by Redirect Left » 19 Sep 2006 22:44

oh, I wonder if he will release a fix for that reading error then..
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Post by lobster » 19 Sep 2006 23:39

MJS: it's a bug (or at least something i can't place), sneaked in through a recent nightly. just tuck all those options out in the ttdpatch.cfg manually, and they'll be gone in the Configurator as well.
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Post by DaleStan » 20 Sep 2006 03:39

Under no circumstances follow asatath's advice!

If you edit your config manually, then you void all warranty that TTDXC will ever pretend to behave correctly on any computer that you come within three miles of. </Andrex>

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Post by Andrex » 23 Sep 2006 05:21

Actually version 2.8.0 was the one being updated to... itself. I released 2.8.5 together with a major divxland.org site update, and I forgot to put the new 2.8.5 executable in there.

At least the version provided with the installer was always 2.8.5... now I uploaded the proper file and you can proceed to update to latest version automatically.

If you happen to view all switches in the "Other" category tab, either the ttpd version does not support categories, or the categories from the XML were translated to another language. TTDXC will include category info (bor stable switches only) on its own in next version to prevent this.

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Post by CPCNMAN007 » 25 Sep 2006 16:47

I found a problem with version of TTDXConfigurator.
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Post by lobster » 25 Sep 2006 19:30

Andrex wrote:Actually version 2.8.0 was the one being updated to... itself.
i knew it! :P

brilliant work though. as usual.
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Post by DaleStan » 25 Sep 2006 19:46

Andrex wrote:If you happen to view all switches in the "Other" category tab, either the ttpd version does not support categories
TTDPatch has never supported categories names as switches, and probably never will.

Free hint: The <category>, <special>, <range>, <bool>, and <bitswitch> tags are all different.
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Post by lobster » 25 Sep 2006 21:22

DaleStan, will you finally shut the bloody hell up? your supposedly allknowing criticism's more than annoying.
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Post by DaleStan » 25 Sep 2006 21:39

astath wrote:DaleStan, will you finally shut the bloody hell up? your supposedly allknowing criticism
Catch me saying something incorrect, and I'll do one better. I'll apologize.
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Post by lobster » 28 Sep 2006 22:18

DaleStan wrote:Catch me saying something incorrect, and I'll do one better. I'll apologize.
wow, must be hard for you. good luck.
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Post by DaleStan » 05 Oct 2006 04:15

Andrex: Effective the nightly build of about 15 minutes ago, TTDPatch is no longer guaranteed to write bits for a bit switch in order. For an example of this, replace your ttdpatch.cfg with:

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miscmods.servintonlyhuman on
miscmods.gradualloadbywagon on
miscmods.dontfixtropicbanks on
miscmods.oldtownterrmodlimit on
miscmods.nodefaultoldtracktype on
miscmods.norescalecompanygraph on
miscmods.notimegiveaway on
miscmods.noworldedgeflooding on
miscmods.nonewspritesorter on
miscmods.noenhancedcomp on
miscmods.smallspritelimit on
miscmods.noextendstationrange on
miscmods.dontfixpaymentgraph on
miscmods.dontshowaltitude on
miscmods.dontchangesnow on
The result, after running "ttdpatch[w] -!T- -W ttdpatch.cfg", contains (comments elided):

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miscmods.servintonlyhuman on
miscmods.gradualloadbywagon on
miscmods.dontfixtropicbanks on
miscmods.oldtownterrmodlimit on
miscmods.nodefaultoldtracktype on
miscmods.norescalecompanygraph on
miscmods.notimegiveaway on
miscmods.noworldedgeflooding on
miscmods.nonewspritesorter on
miscmods.noenhancedcomp on
miscmods.smallspritelimit on
miscmods.noextendstationrange on
miscmods.dontfixpaymentgraph on
miscmods.dontshowaltitude on
miscmods.dontchangesnow on
// **** New bits ****
miscmods.nobuildonbanks off
miscmods.noroadtakeover off
miscmods.dontfixlitres off
miscmods.dontfixhousesprites off
miscmods.nozeppelinonlargeap off
miscmods.usevehnnumbernotname off
miscmods.noyearlyfinances off
miscmods.nodesynchwarning off
miscmods.doshowintro off
miscmods.nodiagonalflooding off
miscmods.breakdownatsignal off
miscmods.displaytownsize off
miscmods.nooldvehiclenews off
miscmods.loaduntilgreen off
miscmods.nogrfidsinscreenshots off
miscmods.notransparentdepots off
TTDXC thinks this says that the first fourteen bits are set, while in actuality, only the even numbered bits are set.

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Post by Andrex » 09 Oct 2006 07:00

Coming on next TTDXC 2.8.6, the error that was disabling single-bit bitswitches is fixed (it was 'something stupid', like Robbie Williams & Nicole Kidman used to say).

Also, to avoid going crazy -like Gnarls Barkley 8)- locating switches, a search switch feature was added. This function behaves just like FireFox's find feature, and searches in both switch internal and translated/visible names for easier switch location. This version will be out as soon as I get some translations (or not), sometime this week.
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Post by Andrex » 20 Oct 2006 19:08

Since I don't have time to thoroughly test it, here I attach a TTDXC 2.8.6 preview version, with the changelog is inside. It supports the reading/writing of bit names for those TTDP versions which provide an XML file.

Please post here if any problems are encountered on it.

Note that allowing this version to update itselft will return it to current 2.8.5 version. The next public version will be 2.8.7.

Edit: download replaced with 2.8.6 preview 2.
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Post by Dr_Quin » 22 Oct 2006 11:13

CPCNMAN007 wrote:I found a problem with version of TTDXConfigurator.
Hi!
I have simillar problem with this version of The configurator
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Post by MJS » 22 Oct 2006 20:05

New update looks very promising. I like the idea of a search function. Will it be able to search in the more buried categories as well (especially 'experimental features')?

Or would it rather be an idea to bring those hidden categories out into the open and show them (possibly indented) in the regular list?

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Post by lobster » 22 Oct 2006 21:03

i´m using the new one, it works like a treat. looking forward to 2.8.7
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Post by Andrex » 23 Oct 2006 00:31

Dr_Quin, your screenshot is from version 2.8.5, not latest 2.8.6 I posted earlier. That error should be fixed on it.
MJS wrote:New update looks very promising. I like the idea of a search function. Will it be able to search in the more buried categories as well (especially 'experimental features')?

Or would it rather be an idea to bring those hidden categories out into the open and show them (possibly indented) in the regular list?
The search function does not search within bits of bitswitches, I don't consider that much useful. And if you are proposing showing all bits on the main GUI, I don't consider it a good idea either because the list would be really long, and those bits have very long descripctions in some cases.

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Post by DaleStan » 23 Oct 2006 05:56

Andrex wrote:I don't consider that much useful.
/me wonders how much of NFORenum he doesn't consider useful.

A quick glance through the readme and the -h message finds: @@PRESERVEMESSAGES, most of @@BEAUTIFY (especially the configurability), @@LET and its associated RPN expression evaluator, @@USEOLDSPRITENUMS, --comment, --data, and --no-replace.

Any idea why they're in there, since I don't consider them useful? Because someone else thought they would be useful, and asked that I implement them.


And on a different subject:
I went to test TTDXC 2.8.6 -- I put it in my TTD folder, and ran it, and it quite helpfully said "Unable to create switches.xml info file. TTDXC will download the info file for TTDPatch 2.0 rev 1 now."

I'm not quite sure what it's smoking there, because it didn't even *try* to start ttdpatchw.exe (I know this because my firewall allerts me when unknown programs try to start other programs.) Had it done so, TTDPatch would have done as TTDXC requested, and generated a proper XML file. (This was verified by running ttdpatchw -!S- from a command line.)

If I manually generate switches.xml, TTDXC deletes it and then reports that switches.xml couldn't be generated, as above.

The ttdpatchw.exe in my folder, as reported by -!T-, is "TTDPatch V2.6 alpha 0 r1141mod (Windows)".

The same basic problem is exhibited with my local 2.5 build. (version "TTDPatch V2.5 beta 8 r1135mod (Windows)")

EDIT: Fix there/they're, and a copy&paste error in the 2.5 version number.
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