Do these trains exist for TTDX (OpenTTD)

m3henry · Post by **m3henry** » 04 Aug 2006 10:35

Purno wrote:There's nothing you need to do and paint can't do. Paint can do anything you need. You just need to know how.

you mean it can work with pallets??!?

Post by **WWTBAM** » 04 Aug 2006 11:03

m3henry wrote:
Purno wrote:There's nothing you need to do and paint can't do. Paint can do anything you need. You just need to know how.
you mean it can work with pallets??!?

yep. just paste the pallets image into paint and Bobs your uncle. Just use the eye dropper tool to select the colour from the pallete image.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 04 Aug 2006 11:26

m3henry wrote:
Purno wrote:There's nothing you need to do and paint can't do. Paint can do anything you need. You just need to know how.
you mean it can work with pallets??!?

You don't need to.

javaguy · Post by **javaguy** » 04 Aug 2006 11:56

also where I come from paint is ridiculed along with those who use it

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 04 Aug 2006 12:18

Don't underestimate the power of paint. Tho it's very simple, it can do a lot more than you think. I've been using paint for ages, and it's the best image editor I've seen, at least, for pixel work. I admit, for photo-editing it's not recommended. But for anything related to TT and spriting, it's priceless.

javaguy · Post by **javaguy** » 04 Aug 2006 12:56

Purno wrote:Don't underestimate the power of paint. Tho it's very simple, it can do a lot more than you think. I've been using paint for ages, and it's the best image editor I've seen, at least, for pixel work. I admit, for photo-editing it's not recommended. But for anything related to TT and spriting, it's priceless.

not if youre making cars for GTA1 it isnt

(I never made any, but I browsed them on a website)

javaguy · Post by **javaguy** » 04 Aug 2006 14:15

okay, enough of the offtopic paint debate

Heres the result of a hard days spriting:

uzurpator, I didnt exactly copy your side view, but I used it as a (helpful) reference, I hope thats ok.

Edit:
Fixed some shading errors (missed out bits) , rounded the coach ends, added sprites for coaches.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 04 Aug 2006 14:29

Looks quite nice, but the wheels look like tyres.

javaguy · Post by **javaguy** » 04 Aug 2006 14:34

Purno wrote:Looks quite nice, but the wheels look like tyres.

do they? (checks) er, dont see what you mean but I shall change the design

anything else I can do to boost my lukewarm "quite nice" rating ?

heh
dont say "give up, sod off"
thats not an answer

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 04 Aug 2006 14:36

Hmm... I'd shade the roof differently, but everyone has his own style of doing that.

javaguy · Post by **javaguy** » 04 Aug 2006 14:38

I did the roof from your tutorial..
do you think it could use some "weathering"?

also.. Im not sure what to do to the bogies to make them look non-tyre like

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 04 Aug 2006 14:46

javaguy wrote:I did the roof from your tutorial..
(...)
also.. Im not sure what to do to the bogies to make them look non-tyre like

I did some quick drawing on it, take a look at the attachment.

do you think it could use some "weathering"?

Nah, I like clean engines when I buy them. Tho some may like it. It's your choice.

javaguy · Post by **javaguy** » 04 Aug 2006 14:51

okay purno thanks

I shall have a look at your carrige and make some changes

hmm
your wheels are better than mine, but I made a couple of changes so its more like that of the original trains:

is that better?
the original trains wheels are like: (wheels go on ends) also the ends of the gaps in the bottom of the train where the wheels go are sloping..
ignore the dots

\_________/
/..................\

as for the weathering, I shall leave the trains clean.. its just they are nothing remotely close to clean in reality: (post continues after pic)

Now that the NSE is done, or nearly done (I'm open to suggestions!)
Im thinking about coding, and where it will slot into the game.
If it was just a normal train, I would just replace the chubby chuff choo choo or whatever the hell the toytown train is called..
but its an EMU, does this mean I have to replace a D/EMU in the game for it to work seperatley?
if so.. does toytown have any E/DMUs? I am NOT playing through toytown to the year 199x to find out. NO.

if so, I was thinking it could possibly replace the second EMU in the game?

graphics_master · Post by **graphics_master** » 04 Aug 2006 17:00

Wow nice graphics. This is making me want to draw again and maybe you could add a high detail to the wheels and other stuff because if you break the mould of what normal people do they you make a new style.

m3henry · Post by **m3henry** » 04 Aug 2006 17:10

wow!

once youve mastered those then you can work on the class 317 or the class 91

javaguy · Post by **javaguy** » 04 Aug 2006 18:39

heh, thanks people!

Im still amazed at the positive response.
As for the class 91, Im not sure I'd be interested in that (intercity 225, right?)
because its damn ugly

(IMHO)

I'll do a 125 or the 317 if you want, maybe.
For now I want to code the 465 and get it into the game, then I may do a 411.

javaguy · Post by **javaguy** » 04 Aug 2006 19:56

argh
I have been dabbling in .nfo editing and suchlike
damn, its.. impossibly hard
will it even work on OTTD? I doubt it
I've done harder code related things (i.e C++, Java) but..
the tutorials arent huugley clear..

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 04 Aug 2006 20:38

javaguy wrote:I have been dabbling in .nfo editing and suchlike
will it even work on OTTD?

It may. It may not. If it works in Patch, and not in Open, poke Peter1138 and ask why. If it doesn't work in Patch, ask here, and someone will probably know why.

javaguy wrote:the tutorials arent huugley clear..

Unfortunately, they are not. Ask questions here, providing the code that you have written, the sentence(s) from the wiki that make you think it should work, and the evidence you have that it isn't working, and someone will almost certainly know how to fix it.

Oh, and forget everything you think you know about programming, with the exception of the following:
Hexadecimal
Bits
Sizes (byte, word, doubleword)
C's arithmetic and logical operators

Specifically, forget about conditionals (if, switch, &c.) and function calls.
Both do exist, but in such vastly different forms as to be unrecognizable.

Patchman · Post by **Patchman** » 04 Aug 2006 20:49

NFO is really a form of assembly language. All it needs is someone to write a proper HLL on top of it...

javaguy · Post by **javaguy** » 04 Aug 2006 21:00

eh, well I shall have another look tomorrow
this sounds bad..

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