Build Templates (Copy&Paste) (r13911 + 0.6.3 + 0.6.2)
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->Button: Bulldoze before rebuild? If enabled, non-vacant-Terrain is bulldozed before paste. if disabled, it is not.
-> Mirror: Horzontal + Vertical.
Mirror works fine, after implementing it, i noticed a problem with mirroring.
The signal directions are mirrored too. (Look at the image)
This is how it is supposed to work, but unsuitable for mirroring a junction, because the mainline-directions are switched too.
What to do now?
-Should the directions stay the same?
-Should it work how it is supposed to?
-Make this optional? (Yes, another button for the evergrowing army of the Widgets)
Note: Mirror-Icons are just placeholders atm...
->Button: Bulldoze before rebuild? If enabled, non-vacant-Terrain is bulldozed before paste. if disabled, it is not.
-> Mirror: Horzontal + Vertical.
Mirror works fine, after implementing it, i noticed a problem with mirroring.
The signal directions are mirrored too. (Look at the image)
This is how it is supposed to work, but unsuitable for mirroring a junction, because the mainline-directions are switched too.
What to do now?
-Should the directions stay the same?
-Should it work how it is supposed to?
-Make this optional? (Yes, another button for the evergrowing army of the Widgets)
Note: Mirror-Icons are just placeholders atm...
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maybe have a reverse signals button?
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A reverse signals button could be the solution, but think of KISS (Keep It Simple and Smart).
Here is an idea for the mirror icons and maybe some button sorting. Just keep it clearly arranged.
Here is an idea for the mirror icons and maybe some button sorting. Just keep it clearly arranged.

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-> Bug fixed: signal storelocation has to be mirrored/rotated too.
Affected only tiles with 2 signals on it.
-> Button: Switch Signal direction when pasting. (Auto-Toggled, when Mirror is used)
If enabled, signal directions are switched before pasting. (Does not modify the copied content)
@skidd13: I used your mirror icons
The icon arrangement will be changed, when all buttons are implemented.
Since new buttons arrived, you have to get the newest copypaste.grf too.
-> Bug fixed: signal storelocation has to be mirrored/rotated too.
Affected only tiles with 2 signals on it.
-> Button: Switch Signal direction when pasting. (Auto-Toggled, when Mirror is used)
If enabled, signal directions are switched before pasting. (Does not modify the copied content)
@skidd13: I used your mirror icons

The icon arrangement will be changed, when all buttons are implemented.
Since new buttons arrived, you have to get the newest copypaste.grf too.
Compile was successfull but game won't start
- used revision 5240
- replaced grf
- OS: Linux
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- used revision 5240
- replaced grf
- OS: Linux
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openttd: gfxinit.c:367: LoadSpriteTables: Assertion `load_index == SPR_2CCMAP_BASE' failed.
OKFrostregen wrote: @skidd13: I used your mirror icons![]()
The icon arrangement will be changed, when all buttons are implemented.

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Frostregen, is it possible to update your first post with the latest version of your patch in stead of posting new files.
(easier to track and doesn't take so much space on the forum).
(easier to track and doesn't take so much space on the forum).
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I hooked up my accelerator to my brake lights. I hit the gas, people behind me stop, and I'm gone.
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you. Spoilers and bodykits are how much of the wall you take with you. Rollcages and windownets are how much of a mess you leave on the wall.
I hooked up my accelerator to my brake lights. I hit the gas, people behind me stop, and I'm gone.
Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you. Spoilers and bodykits are how much of the wall you take with you. Rollcages and windownets are how much of a mess you leave on the wall.
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How far is the rail conversion atm?
Here is an idea to prevent an extra button for this in the copy-past widget. The copied are will be pasted in the selected rail-type. But then there is the need of one button in each rail-widget.
Here is an idea to prevent an extra button for this in the copy-past widget. The copied are will be pasted in the selected rail-type. But then there is the need of one button in each rail-widget.
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If you press this button it changes to <see image>
My first idea was to make the first state like the second, but with both signals facing in the same direction. But I thought the difference was to small to notice properly.
The buttons for copying specific items will be reduced to:
-Road
-Rail
-"Only your own items"
I don't see any use for copying rails without signals, or a junction without bridges and tunnels.
But maybe you have some ideas which actually make use of those features.
My first idea was to make the first state like the second, but with both signals facing in the same direction. But I thought the difference was to small to notice properly.
The buttons for copying specific items will be reduced to:
-Road
-Rail
-"Only your own items"
I don't see any use for copying rails without signals, or a junction without bridges and tunnels.
But maybe you have some ideas which actually make use of those features.
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Last edited by Frostregen on 14 Jun 2006 18:21, edited 1 time in total.
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I made some possible solutions.Wolf01 wrote:maybe a single signal with an arrow like the turn selection is better

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| 2 | 4 | 6 | 8 |
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1 and 2 are the original icons.
3 and 4 are possible replacements.
The other icons are only a possible replacement for the reverse signals icon.
I could offer you one for GIMP, but not for Photoshop.Frostregen wrote:Btw, is there a correct palette file for photoshop somewhere?

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Ok I'll take the gimp palette, and give the gimp another try (since photoshop sucks in some areas)
It would save me some effort if you upload your suggestions directly as pcx. (With colors from the openTTD palette used.)
I would vote for no. 6
EDIT: I extracted the palette from trg1r.grf.
Now I can copy your icons without any index problems. (You don't need to post images as pcx, as mentioned above)
It took a while to find out how to exchange the palette(Colortable) in Gimp
It would save me some effort if you upload your suggestions directly as pcx. (With colors from the openTTD palette used.)
I would vote for no. 6

EDIT: I extracted the palette from trg1r.grf.
Now I can copy your icons without any index problems. (You don't need to post images as pcx, as mentioned above)
It took a while to find out how to exchange the palette(Colortable) in Gimp

Here it isFrostregen wrote:Ok I'll take the gimp palette, and give the gimp another try
Edit: attachment removed
Last edited by skidd13 on 15 Jun 2006 16:28, edited 1 time in total.
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i like the 1 in the top right corner 

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Sorry something in the palette file was wrong!Frostregen wrote:But some questions: why there is a black to white color ramp from index 1 to about 15? Ingame it turns out pink.
Is there a document which states the special meaning of some the colors? (like the blinking red/black yellow/black)


I prefer Nr. 7 too.
@Frostregen
Btw, is there a need of linux binaries?
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