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Post by Death » 15 Jun 2006 08:30

>>>>>>>>>>>>CODING NEWS<<<<<<<<<<<<

:arrow: New Version (Spain set): 1.16V

Changes:
  • New locomatives:
    • 598 DMU
      352 (TalgoIII) Diesel
    TTD's wagons are now available from 1920
    More Fixing work
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:arrow: New version for Spanish Towns names
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Post by krtaylor » 16 Jun 2006 02:25

Site updated.

Hey, any feeling on % done of coding? Not including the trains that aren't yet drawn, that is.
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Post by Death » 16 Jun 2006 08:09

krtaylor wrote:Hey, any feeling on % done of coding? Not including the trains that aren't yet drawn, that is.
It's about 74% vehicles (including the wagons).

Sanchimaru: For the next version I want to code the 353 Diesel,
the Talgo XXI DMU and the 100 AVE EMU. But I need to know how the wagons should be (i.e. what's the passengers car and what's the mail car etc.). Could you help me with this, please?

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Post by Sanchimaru » 16 Jun 2006 14:35

Hello!

I bring some new stuff... 8)

but first:
Death, the new town names with ñ's is great! Thanks for the quick update.
I also enjoyed the TalgoIII a lot... I was so impacient to see it running :]

About the cars:
TalgoXXI:
1st row: passenger car
2nd row: mail car
3rd row: passenger car (dining) one every 5 cars

As for the AVE:
1: car with head of train (any: pass/mail)
2: mail car
3 & 4: passenger car, make them alternate: 343434...
5: car with tail of train (any: pass/mail)

Well, time to pass to the news:
I've ellaborated 2 new name lists: one for catalan town names, and one for basque. I don't know basque language at all, and its grammar is totally different to romance languages, so it might be a big mess... but I used more or less common name parts. We'll see...
As for how to code it: the catalan part only has one specific detail: it uses letter Ç in one of the words (Sant Llorenç)
And for basque, I'd need yet another special feature from the coder:
when the end of the prefix and the beginning of the suffix are the same letter, assimilate them so that only one appears (e.g. Azkoi+ibar=Azkoibar; Iratza+aga=Iratzaga)
So there should be 3 name groups, and at the moment of creating one town, a random pre- and suffix is chosen from within one of the 3 groups at random.

And another thing:
I have made a very rough version of the hi-speed tracks. There are no tunnels, road crossings, etc. Only the plain tracks so that we can see them in game. I'm sorry I didn't align all of the sprites... However, if that is too much of a problem, I'll work on it.
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Post by Death » 17 Jun 2006 18:37

Wooo! I see that I have a lot of work. :shock:
Anyway, I have one question on the Catalan names:
When I open the text file, the names appear as one long word/string which has a space after each letter, and I don't understand it ( :oops: ).
Could you please list it as the Basque names?

[Edit:]
Sanchimaru wrote:And for basque, I'd need yet another special feature from the coder
It's O.K. I'll do that.

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Post by Sanchimaru » 17 Jun 2006 22:27

Oh, so the feature was possible! Excellent!
Strange, I can see normally the list... however, here it is:

Arros
Artesa
Bellmunt
Bellver
Castellnou
El Mas
El Pla
El Pont
Esterri
Figols
Figuerola
Ganyena
Hortoneda
Ivars
La Guardia
La Pobla
La Torre
L'Alzina
Mas
Mont
Montoliu
Palau
Pallerols
Prat
Puigverd
Pujol
Sallent
Sant Pere
Sant Jordi
Sant Llorenç
Solans
Tarrega
Tora
Vernet
Vic
Vilanova

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d'Urgell
de Montsec
d'Amunt
de Segarra
de Baix
de Segre
de la Conca
d'Aneu
de Balaguer
de Belpuig
de la Barca
de Meia
de Segria
d'Alpicat
de Besan
d'Isil
de Valls
de Seana
d'Olugues
de les Garrigues
de la Font
de Noguera
de Sanui
d'Ares
dels Horts
de Pallars

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Post by Death » 18 Jun 2006 13:34

Thank Sanchimaru,
:arrow: I added these names to the file, check it out (in your/my signature)
:arrow: About the speed way, I made a grf so you can test it now (below).
Oh! I feel like my brain is going to blow-up.

enjoy!

[edit:]Krtaylor, I added a DOS grf of the spanish names (although I don't see the difference), so you can add it to the site.
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Post by PikkaBird » 18 Jun 2006 14:08

Death wrote:[edit:]Krtaylor, I added a DOS grf of the spanish names (although I don't see the difference), so you can add it to the site.
AFAIA, the only difference between Windows and DOS grfs is the colour palette. So for grfs with no graphics, they'll be the same.

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Post by Snail » 18 Jun 2006 15:44

Sanchi, your highspeed tracks kick ass :D I love the two-parts sleepers.
Plans to add a catenary?

I hope you'll still be willing to let us share them in the FRSet. ;)

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Post by krtaylor » 18 Jun 2006 18:45

Website updated.
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Post by DaleStan » 18 Jun 2006 23:00

PikkaBird wrote:AFAIA, the only difference between Windows and DOS grfs is the colour palette. So for grfs with no graphics, they'll be the same.
Correct. Except that for Win vs DOS purposes, character glyphs aren't graphics. (GRFCodec is not smart enough to realize this, and will attempt to map character-glyph sprites. Don't let it do that.)
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Post by Sanchimaru » 19 Jun 2006 10:12

Wow!! Death, you work so incredibly fast! The files are excellent, I already tested them.
Thanks to patch support too, now town names are ordered correctly and not repeated.

Snail: indeed, I readed somewhere that there will be patch support for new track types, with catenary support, so we will be wanting to add one for the speed track. Did you download and test the GRF? let me know what do you think about it.

one shot of the TalgoIII running on high speed track.
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Post by Death » 19 Jun 2006 17:00

Nice Shot! :D

By the way, I need to know how the 353's wagons should be. (I feel uncomfortable to ask you about every MU and its wagons :oops: )

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Post by Sanchimaru » 19 Jun 2006 23:29

Oh, don't worry, actually it's my fault not to have given a precise explanation of all of them...

about the Talgo pendular cars:
-first car (next to the locomotive)
-dining car (one every 5 cars)
-mail
-passengers

The liveries are for each timeline: 1st and 2nd random (depending on locomotive) until 1983 ; 3rd 1984~2004 ; 4th 2005~

another one: AVE 102 "pato"
-first & last car
-passenger
-mail

We will have to ask Purno about the 103...

Ah, one more thing! I was testing the files the other day and thought: is it possible to have a GRF set automatically some options? so that the Spain set GRF automatically inserts the following parameters: currency: peseta, drive on right, measure: kilometers, city names: spanish

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Post by Snail » 20 Jun 2006 03:35

Sanchimaru wrote:Snail: indeed, I readed somewhere that there will be patch support for new track types, with catenary support, so we will be wanting to add one for the speed track. Did you download and test the GRF? let me know what do you think about it.
Unfortunately, I no longer have VirtualPC and can't really find the time to install TTD in my DosBox... but I did see the pic, and I like them very much. Maybe they could use a bit of gravel more? But even like this, they're really well done. They give the idea of modern concrete sleepers.

If you put the catenary on, it would be great! We could use it as well in our set.

BTW, connected to this: has anybody out there developed a third rail system? I think I remember seeing something like that.

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Post by Death » 20 Jun 2006 17:26

:arrow: Thanks Sunchimaru,
But still I misunderstand something with 353...
The Excel file show that the red locomaotive have the Talgo III wagons, and it's appear untill 1983 and only then the white and the green should replace the red one. It doesn't fit to what you said. ?(

:arrow:
Sanchmaru wrote:Ah, one more thing! I was testing the files the other day and thought: is it possible to have a GRF set automatically some options? so that the Spain set GRF automatically inserts the following parameters: currency: peseta, drive on right, measure: kilometers, city names: spanish
Yes. But as far as I know not all of them. I can only change the currency and the measurement.
I will try it for the next version.
I can also make the grf disabled if the road traffic side is left, but I think it's better not to do so.

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Post by m3henry » 20 Jun 2006 18:10

i dont see the third rail :?:
is it in the middle, side (where it should be)?
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Post by Snail » 20 Jun 2006 18:28

m3henry wrote:i dont see the third rail :?:
is it in the middle, side (where it should be)?
Well, I wasn't referring to Sanchi's tracks, which are (still) non electrified. I was speaking in general. I believe someone did draw some sprites for a third-rail system, is that right?

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Post by krtaylor » 20 Jun 2006 22:04

I never heard of it, and I'd think the sprite would be awfully crowded if you tried to cram a third rail into it. Could be wrong though.
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Post by Sanchimaru » 20 Jun 2006 23:36

Death: Indeed, I was looking at both car sets at the same time and I finally mistook them!
The timelines for Talgo pendular are:
1984~89 (1 and 2 random)
1990~2004 (3)
2005~ (4)

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