Dutch Busses

nguwland · Post by **nguwland** » 21 Mar 2006 22:15

For those interested in the Dutch division of Den Oudsten, this is a interesting site, Unfortunately only in Dutch, but if you want, i can translate it into english.

http://www.johnveerkamp.com/DenOudsten/ ... dsten.html

nguwland · Post by **nguwland** » 21 Mar 2006 22:18

and further I found the official (recovered) site of Den Oudsten, with technical specs. The bus I drew was similar to the B95 intercity.

http://www.johnveerkamp.com/DenOudsten/ ... udsten.htm

SAC · Post by **SAC** » 21 Mar 2006 23:24

Interesting sites! I also spotted they had some American versions of their buses!

George · Post by **George** » 22 Mar 2006 05:50

nguwland wrote:I worked on the points you mentioned,
how about now?

Really good, now you have only to fix small mistakes and it would be ok. Let me point some of them (more detailed views would be done later)
1) the from player view has the same colour of the rear part, while thу / should have it darker
2) the horisontal view has the same side colours, as \ side view, while should have the colour of / view. that means it should be 1 tone ligther
3) the rear light is lost in \ view
4) there are green dots on the front part in diagonal views, but not in vertical. Also they are located differently in \ and / views.
5) have a look at windows colours. they are different in different views. Should be the tones of one colour for all the views.

p.s. Did you draw Den Oudsten "Alliance" 1989-2002?
p.s. Did you post a link to show you plans? What about Van Rooijen "Odyssee" 1982 and Den Oudsten "Standaard Streekbus" 1969-1988 going next?

Hyronymus · Post by **Hyronymus** » 22 Mar 2006 06:42

nguwland, I'll try to find some information on (older) busses later today.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 22 Mar 2006 08:22

whoohoo, nice work!

I'd love to see some buses in the green Connexxion livery tho

Hyronymus · Post by **Hyronymus** » 22 Mar 2006 09:58

I'm not positive but I think the city of The Hague has the longest history in organised bus services in The Netherlands. I found 2 sites about it with pictures and a history review:

http://members.lycos.nl/nick466/de_gesc ... gse_bu.htm
http://home.hetnet.nl/~sjanie-ed/Wederopbouwbussen.htm

SAC · Post by **SAC** » 22 Mar 2006 10:18

Can't say I understand dutch - although people in other countries seem to mix up dutch and swedish

- but I definately enjoyed looking at the pictures.

Thanks for posting the links!

Hyronymus · Post by **Hyronymus** » 22 Mar 2006 23:17

I'll try and find more details this week. Quite difficult actually, busses aren't as popular as trams/trains.

SAC · Post by **SAC** » 22 Mar 2006 23:34

Nope, they aren't!

BTW, isn't Van Hool dutch? Or is it from Belgium?

nguwland · Post by **nguwland** » 23 Mar 2006 16:49

SAC wrote:Nope, they aren't! BTW, isn't Van Hool dutch? Or is it from Belgium?

Van Hool is belgium, but there are a lot Van Hools driving around in Holland. The main part of the Utrecht citybusses are Van Hool. They even have double articulated AGG300 driving around.

nguwland · Post by **nguwland** » 23 Mar 2006 16:53

George wrote:
nguwland wrote:I worked on the points you mentioned,
how about now?
Really good, now you have only to fix small mistakes and it would be ok. Let me point some of them (more detailed views would be done later)
1) the from player view has the same colour of the rear part, while thу / should have it darker
2) the horisontal view has the same side colours, as \ side view, while should have the colour of / view. that means it should be 1 tone ligther
3) the rear light is lost in \ view
4) there are green dots on the front part in diagonal views, but not in vertical. Also they are located differently in \ and / views.
5) have a look at windows colours. they are different in different views. Should be the tones of one colour for all the views.

p.s. Did you draw Den Oudsten "Alliance" 1989-2002?
p.s. Did you post a link to show you plans? What about Van Rooijen "Odyssee" 1982 and Den Oudsten "Standaard Streekbus" 1969-1988 going next?

Okay, I'll fix those points. And this is indeed the Alliance 1989-2002.

Once this one is done, I'll redraw my first bus (Van Hool NewAG300 zuidtangent livery).

SAC · Post by **SAC** » 23 Mar 2006 17:36

nguwland wrote:
SAC wrote:Nope, they aren't! BTW, isn't Van Hool dutch? Or is it from Belgium?
Van Hool is belgium, but there are a lot Van Hools driving around in Holland. The main part of the Utrecht citybusses are Van Hool. They even have double articulated AGG300 driving around.

Yeah, those double articulated ones are really cool. They have them in Gothenburg, Sweden as well - although Volvo!

George · Post by **George** » 23 Mar 2006 18:43

nguwland wrote:Okay, I'll fix those points. And this is indeed the Alliance 1989-2002.
Once this one is done, I'll redraw my first bus (Van Hool NewAG300 zuidtangent livery).

Ok, looking for the next itteration

nguwland · Post by **nguwland** » 23 Mar 2006 19:03

I've changed the lightfalls you (george) mentioned, and also adjusted the lightfall, but are the windows at the shadow side of the bus not 1 tint darker than those in the "sunny" side?, anyways, i've also fixed the lengt of the vertical view, and fixed the green spot on the front, when i looked at the picture, I saw that there was a small connexxion logo placed on the right side of the front (thats that green spot).

George · Post by **George** » 23 Mar 2006 20:56

nguwland wrote:I've changed the lightfalls you (george) mentioned,

Not all of them

nguwland wrote:and also adjusted the lightfall, but are the windows at the shadow side of the bus not 1 tint darker than those in the "sunny" side?,

Yes, they should

nguwland wrote:anyways, i've also fixed the lengt of the vertical view, and fixed the green spot on the front, when i looked at the picture, I saw that there was a small connexxion logo placed on the right side of the front (thats that green spot).

I like the colour adgustment of the body, but the new windows colour looks unrealistic. The mauve colour, used in TTD, fits better, imho. Also some more pixel hunting is required.

nguwland · Post by **nguwland** » 24 Mar 2006 14:49

I modded the Alliance a bit again, but I wonder, wich Windows look the best. I feel best about the windows in View 1.

further I made a dutch style busstop, so this bus don't have to stop in the middle of nowhere

Caelan · Post by **Caelan** » 24 Mar 2006 15:05

I created an additional '70's waiting cabin which i am going to use at some rural platforms as well. You are free to use it as well and restyle it according to your needs.

George · Post by **George** » 24 Mar 2006 15:45

nguwland wrote:I modded the Alliance a bit again, but I wonder, wich Windows look the best. I feel best about the windows in View 1.

I think they are all too bright. The ones on the photos look much darker. I vote for dark mauve colour

nguwland · Post by **nguwland** » 24 Mar 2006 18:02

Caelan wrote:I created an additional '70's waiting cabin which i am going to use at some rural platforms as well. You are free to use it as well and restyle it according to your needs.

Thanks, they look nice

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