Oh! In that case, I see all four of them Stupid of me, didn't know the download I have only consists of 4 trains. Thing is, I went to your website and saw all these screenshots and I expected them in the GRF file.
Do you happen to know when more trains will be available for download or is this a good point for me to stop asking stupid questions and just wait and see?
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By the way: Great job! The screenshots look great and add more feeling to the game imho
daxx wrote:Do you happen to know when more trains will be available for download or is this a good point for me to stop asking stupid questions and just wait and see?
Nopes, we don't know. We're still working on it and progress goes slowly.
Well for now we have all data right? I mean i sent out the costs of the trains, we have covered the rest of data recently. Now we need a couple more things drawn right?
AFAIK, Hyro is making a file for the coder. We need to clear how all consists and such work, before our coder can do anything. I believe for the moment nothing really needs to be drawn. So I guess the missing drawings will be included at a later point?
I'm busy making 1 spreadsheet from the 4 versions that are flying around. After that I'll try to update the website (also for Dutch stations). In the mean time I would like your opinion on future trains. How many do we want to introduce between 2006 and 2050? Caelan and Mr.X coined up a few future trains in the past.
Remember: don't suggest maglev or monorail trains!
EDIT: there is something else I need to know before finishing the spreadsheet. We haven't drawn mail vans for some trains, like all modern MU's, Benelux trains, ICE's etc. It should be possible to keep players from adding any mail van to trains that carry no mail in real life too. What do the other team members think?
Correct for future trains i referred to a train from bombardier, the ones that are already producing trains for the NS. It is the Zefiro http://www.bombardier.com/index.jsp a new high speed train. (Bombardier was also the supplier of the ICE 3 trains)
or new ones from Bombardier as well:
Flexity for light rail
For passenger trains perhaps a tilting train to go fast over excisting tracks (increased speed in curves?)
well a couple of my suggestions. These are of course all trains...
In general i advice to look at the companies who develop trains to see what the trends are.
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Those trains are not bad! Maybe the Dutch rail network will eventually buy something like Bombardier's AGC (which runs in France) or Alstom's Minuetto (that runs in Italy) to replace the older single-decker EMUs. When I was in Amsterdam I remember catching some trains which seemed dating back from the Sixties...
OTOH, the RegioRunner is still quite modern so it's unlikely that it will be replaced in the next few years.
Snail wrote:Those trains are not bad! Maybe the Dutch rail network will eventually buy something like Bombardier's AGC (which runs in France) or Alstom's Minuetto (that runs in Italy) to replace the older single-decker EMUs. When I was in Amsterdam I remember catching some trains which seemed dating back from the Sixties...
Those trains from the sixties are the Materieel'64. They are indeed replaced in a year or two, but not by AGC or Minuetto. They will be replaced by completely new designed EMUs that are based on the German ET425. We already talked about it here some pages ago.
I have some things to mention for the graphics artists. As I'm busy creating 1 comprehensive spreadsheet I get the feeling we're still missing quite some graphics. Probably the largest amount of missing graphics are 'simple' passenger/mail wagons with red endlights but also some vehicles that have been added along the way. I.e., Caelan suggested an early mail coach and I added the P6000 and Pd7011 to the list. A detailed overview should be available tomorrow but I would appreciate it if the graphic artists would check their work and see if they supplied every required sprite.
Hyronymus wrote:I would appreciate it if the graphic artists would check their work and see if they supplied every required sprite.
Could you mention what kind of things usually miss? As I'm pretty sure I always draw all necessary sprites, with headlights, directions, panto's and anything.
I think Bastiaan knows what I want now: information on the generator wagons used for the passenger trains that were pushed by NS 2400's (between 1970-1987, see here for a drawing).
I think the formula for determining engine price, maintenance costs and life span need a correction. Sorry for my late discovery Caelan but I only just got to adding vehicle costs. Electric engines become over-expansive too quickly with the current formula, as well as maintenance costs. The lifespan of vehicles should hardly ever exceed 25 years I think, otherwise gameplay would be ruined severely. Can you send me a spreadsheet with the formula's you used, Caelan. I think we can come up with a refined formula together.
I'll abuse this double post for another graphics request: for making a complete consist of Benelux-trains behind a NMBS Reeks 25.5 we still need a Plan D WRD and Plan W(1) in old Benelux colours (darkblue with a yellow stripe under the windows and on the doors). A similar livery is needed for the Mat '54 2-coach consists that were delivered for early Benelux services. Also missing: the year by which NS 1100 engines were put aside (on a large scale).
Stupid of me, didn't know the download I have only consists of 4 trains. Thing is, I went to your website and saw all these screenshots and I expected them in the GRF file.
I cant wait to see the outcome of this set!