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jvassie · Post by **jvassie** » 25 Apr 2005 19:49

Cheers guys!

Ill get to it tommorrow after school probably

James

OzTrans · Post by **OzTrans** » 25 Apr 2005 22:58

Purno wrote:... shouldn't this topic fit better in ttdpatch graphics forum?

That depends ... what you play or want to play with. If this set needs to be compatible with OTT it may just as well stay, on the other hand if you want more sophistication when it comes to coding it should be in ttdpatch. Unfortunately OTT does not support callbacks, a major feature of the 'Patch'. Maybe someone can find out what the OTT developers plans are in regard to full compatibility of patch coded .grf's and when that is likely to happen.

One option would be to code 2 sets one for OTT the other for the 'Patch'. That is what I will be doing for the Norwegian Trainset for the time being.

OzTrans · Post by **OzTrans** » 25 Apr 2005 23:10

>>> List of Historic SBB locos :
"http://www.railfaneurope.net/list/switz ... b_his.html"
"http://www.railfaneurope.net/list/switz ... b_del.html"

* Ce 6/8 II brown 1920 "Crocodile"
* Ce 6/8 III green 1926 "Crocodile"
Be 4/6 1921 passenger service loco
Be 4/7 1922
Ae 3/6 I 1924, II 1925, III 1926
* Ae 4/7 1927
* Ae 8/14 1931 Articulated/Twin
* Re 4/4 I red/green 1946/1950
* RAe 2/4 1935 "Red Arrow"
RAe 4/8 1939 Double-"Red Arrow"
BDe 4/4 1952-1997
* RAe TEE 1961 TEE 4-voltage

>>> List of major steam locos :
"http://www.railfaneurope.net/list/switz ... b_his.html"

A 3/5 1904
B 3/4 1916
C 5/6 1917
Eb 3/5 1912

(I don't think these have been used for shunting duties)

>>> List of SBB Cargo locos :
"http://www.railfaneurope.net/list/switz ... sbb-c.html"

*** Re 4/4 II (Re 420/421) Cargo 1964
*** Re 4/4 III (Re 430) 1971
Re 474 2004
Re 481 2000 Heavy Cargo
Re 482/484 2002/04 Heavy Cargo
*** Ae 6/6 1952 "Gotthard"
*** Re 620 (Re 6/6) 1972

>>> List of SBB Passenger Service locos :
"http://www.railfaneurope.net/list/switz ... sbb-p.html"

*** Re 4/4 II (Re 420) 1964
*** Re 460 1992 IC Lok 2000
*** Re 450 1989 S-Bahn Zürich (see below)

>>> List of SBB Multiple Units :

*** RABDe500 7-car InterCity Tilt-Train 2000
"http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB ... c/pix.html"

*** IC2000 Double Deck InterRegio/InterCity with Re460 and Driving Trailer
"http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB ... t/pix.html"

*** S-Bahn Zürich Double Deck with Re450 and Driving Trailer
"http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB ... c/pix.html"

* these ones are worth having in the set, *** these are a must.

Just make the list as big as you can, we can always cut it back, better to have too many rather than not enough.

jvassie · Post by **jvassie** » 26 Apr 2005 15:41

cool
im in agreement there
do you like the list of passenegr and mail vehicles?

James

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 26 Apr 2005 17:34

jvassie · Post by **jvassie** » 26 Apr 2005 17:40

...

James

OzTrans · Post by **OzTrans** » 26 Apr 2005 18:16

jamesvassie wrote:... do you like the list of passenegr and mail vehicles?

I haven't looked at wagons yet. There seem to be millions out there. We will need only a few (1 or 2) of each as we can do a lot with livery overrides. We could have 1 or 2 mail vans and then have different liveries to go with them. The same for passenger carrriages; 1 local, 1 InterRegio/InterCity, 1 International and then override their liveries either automatically or through refitting. MU wagons get their livery according to the engine they are attached to.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 26 Apr 2005 18:18

jamesvassie wrote:...

Maybe it's better to put your name in every graphic file you post on the forums.

jvassie · Post by **jvassie** » 26 Apr 2005 18:50

ah yes the MB issue!

Its a bit stupid we should have to do this.

EVERY other set apart from MB's cooperate with each other, the people working on one set, might also work on another but no one minds.

There hasnt been a single post ive seen which says, lets do something to stop them getting publicity or whatever.

James

OzTrans · Post by **OzTrans** » 27 Apr 2005 00:44

Just a comment on vehicle lengths. I hope everybody is aware that any vehicle does not need to be full length, simply because you have 32 pixels available in horz-view. EG: a Re 4/4 is much shorter than a Re 6/6 or Ae 6/6. You need to consider the general length of all vehicles in the set and make adjustments accordingly.

The absolut maximum in vehicle length you can use without having individual vehicles overlap eachother are:

-- 32 pixels
/\ 16 pixels
|| 16 pixels

they then can be made shorter by multiples of 1/8 or 12.5 % up to 5/8 or 62.5 %. Therefore if vehicles are made up of multiples of 1/8 maximum lengths, they will all look perfect in the game. On the other hand an always leading or trailing vehicle (eg front/rear car of TGV) could be longer because of the nose cone it could be 36 px long and still be ok.

When it comes to vehicle height; 8 pixels for the side and another 4 for the roof seems to work fine.

Also note extras such as pantos are not taken into account they can still stick out.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 27 Apr 2005 18:29

jamesvassie wrote:ah yes the MB issue!

Its a bit stupid we should have to do this.

EVERY other set apart from MB's cooperate with each other, the people working on one set, might also work on another but no one minds.

My comment had nothing to do with the MB-case.

There hasnt been a single post ive seen which says, lets do something to stop them getting publicity or whatever.

James

I just gave a newbie a link to MB's site. I want newbies to get the best TT expierence, therefore I link them to MB's site too. I'm not in war with MB as far as I concern.

jvassie · Post by **jvassie** » 27 Apr 2005 19:40

I just gave a newbie a link to MB's site. I want newbies to get the best TT expierence, therefore I link them to MB's site too. I'm not in war with MB as far as I concern.

Fair point, all im saying is i wish he could cooperate with everyone. i understand where he is coming from, i would hate to have my work copied and then the rights taken from me.

Oh yeah, i just coded my very first train!

James

Nostromo · Post by **Nostromo** » 27 Apr 2005 20:26

hi to all!

if you have any questions belonging swiss trains just ask me!

is there a chance to play the swiss set in the normal ttd patch?

greetz!

DaleStan · Post by **DaleStan** » 27 Apr 2005 21:36

Currently, if it works in OTTD it works in TTDPatch. OTTD is still busy playing catch-up, at least where new graphics are concerned.

OzTrans · Post by **OzTrans** » 28 Apr 2005 00:06

Nostromo wrote:... is there a chance to play the swiss set in the normal ttd patch?

It is my intention to code both, a version for OTTD and one for TTDPatch. Which one we are doing first, has not been decided yet. Maybe it may not be necessary to have 2 versions at all, it depends how fast OTTD catches up with the 'Patch'. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find out what is on OTTD's drawing board. We'll probably just have to wait until they release a new version, and see what is in it.

jvassie · Post by **jvassie** » 28 Apr 2005 16:28

Hey nostromo,

can you do anything like code or draw graphics, were in need of both, we could do with researchers as well!

Cheers
James

OzTrans · Post by **OzTrans** » 28 Apr 2005 23:24

jamesvassie wrote:... can you do anything like code or draw graphics, were in need of both, we could do with researchers as well!

I will do the coding, but we will certainly be in need of graphic artists.

jvassie · Post by **jvassie** » 29 Apr 2005 15:38

Purno might be interested, he might already have to much stuff on at the moment already though!

Hows the tracking table coming along?

James

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 29 Apr 2005 17:06

jamesvassie wrote:Purno might be interested, he might already have to much stuff on at the moment already though!

The main problem is I'm too addicted to internet and chat. Whenever I feel like drawing I can draw for a lots of sets (Norwegian, Dutch, German, Finnish, French, Swiss, Australian, etc. etc.). Although I am interested in this set and want to have some graphics done, I can't force myself too actually start drawing. Anyways, I will follow this set and might actually draw something. And I can give comments on other ppl's graphics.

Hows the tracking table coming along?

Don't forget the vehicle list too

jvassie · Post by **jvassie** » 29 Apr 2005 18:48

Hey all,

Thanks to Wallyweb for providing the template, ive created a tracking table for the Swiss Set.

It only has SBB and BLS locomotives at the moment.

Suggestions, Changes & Comments welcome!

James

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