[Discontinued] Locomotion NL Pack (Updt: Apr 16 2005)

G-TANK-G · Post by **G-TANK-G** » 11 Apr 2005 09:59

it's very good scrat, but i'm wondering if the dutch had steam engines or any other types (diesel,electric) from the 1900 and up. because i always start in 1900 on locomotion because the stuff are cheeper then and it's easier for me to start my company from then, and when i was looking through your vehicles list, and i've found that there's no steam engines or trains, when you start at 1900, so if there is any trains from 1900 could you add them into your nl pack please.

i would be very greatful. thank you.

also if there is any steam engines or trains from 1900 then i can help you to find infomation about them,(eg. speed,weight,horse power etc.).

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 11 Apr 2005 10:06

although i agree with you, i know that asking for steam engines is the same as wearing a tutu and spinning the second waltz to get some ice cream. it's not going to happen.

scrat · Post by **scrat** » 11 Apr 2005 10:20

Re ICK:
Done. Next update it will be released.

KristiaanD · Post by **KristiaanD** » 11 Apr 2005 11:19

That small maglev preview pic is looking mighty sweet!. I will patiently wait for the next release!.

Keep up the fantastic work!.

Ps: You got some previews for the NL region

?

scrat · Post by **scrat** » 11 Apr 2005 12:13

No previews of the NL region. Well, in its thread I have posted (half a year ago) some proof of concept pictures.

DeletedUser21 · Post by **DeletedUser21** » 11 Apr 2005 15:08

I think the maglev in NS yellow looks awesome!!
But is it possible to do the same in the new NS livery? (the livery used by the 2900 series "Sprinter")

Nice work guys!

scrat · Post by **scrat** » 11 Apr 2005 16:23

Now that I'm in a stats updating mood anyway, I was wondering whether these are correct:

Plan W Passenger Carriage
1966 - 1990
87 mph, 29 tonnes
88 passengers

ICK Passenger Carriage
2002 -
87 mph, 38 tonnes
72 passengers

ICR Passenger Carriage
1982 -
100 mph, 41 tonnes
80 passengers

IC+ Passenger Carriage
2003 -
102 mph, 40 tonnes
85 passengers

G-TANK-G · Post by **G-TANK-G** » 11 Apr 2005 16:47

umm, yeah, i think the stats for the carriages are good.
I've just seen a little shot of your new maglev you've put on your site and i have got to say it's looking fine

,can't wait 'till you've done with them, how many are you doing, hope there's more?

i know it'll be a long time 'till it's out, but could you message me when you've done, 'cause believe me i will download that like a shot.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 11 Apr 2005 17:37

Mr. X wrote:I think the maglev in NS yellow looks awesome!!
But is it possible to do the same in the new NS livery? (the livery used by the 2900 series "Sprinter")

Nice work guys!

Agreed, I think the new Sprinter livery are the new company colors of the NS, and probably it's more realistic using those.

Besides, the light blue diagonal stripes are used for regional trains ("stoptreinen"), where maglev probably will function as InterCities. Those trains have a darkblue stripe over the windows, over the full lenght of the train (as the ICM "Koploper", IRM "RegioRunner" and the IC Coaches have).

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 11 Apr 2005 17:56

scrat once stated there will be one livery per vehicle, since more liveries would require more vehicle slots.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 11 Apr 2005 17:58

I am talking of replacing the current livery because it doesn't make much sense IMO.

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 11 Apr 2005 17:59

Purno wrote:I am talking of replacing the current livery because it doesn't make much sense IMO.

i was afraid of that. there goes my witty remark.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 11 Apr 2005 18:09

Or, when scrat doesn't want to change the livery, he can also use my comments for any new MagLevs

scrat · Post by **scrat** » 11 Apr 2005 18:12

Oppie is in charge of the liveries. He does the renders, he determines the liveries. I agree with regards to the colours of any future material, but then again, in this future the NS might have changed its mind with regards to the colour scheme.

oppie · Post by **oppie** » 11 Apr 2005 18:28

Purno wrote:Agreed, I think the new Sprinter livery are the new company colors of the NS, and probably it's more realistic using those.

Besides, the light blue diagonal stripes are used for regional trains ("stoptreinen"), where maglev probably will function as InterCities. Those trains have a darkblue stripe over the windows, over the full lenght of the train (as the ICM "Koploper", IRM "RegioRunner" and the IC Coaches have).

I have experimented with putting the 'intercity' livery onto the maglev train, but the blue band on the windows is almost indistinguishable from the black band that is the windows. In the end the 'stoptrein' livery looked much cooler, so I decided to go with that.

Let's just say the NS decided to go with the old 'stoptrein' livery for nostalgia reasons.

(And if that's not convincing enough, I'll make up another reason)

I'll take your advice though and use a different livery for the other maglevs. I was planning to make cargo maglevs in the Railion livery.

Speaking of the maglev train designs; I'm making a few that are based on actual TransRapid designs for the early Maglev years and some custom designed ones for the later years (post 2010?).

G-TANK-G · Post by **G-TANK-G** » 11 Apr 2005 18:50

scrat, if i knew how to do make new stations, bridges etc. to help with your nl pack i'll do it, if you want. And when i learn how to make stations or/and bridges etc. i'l do it, you just say it and i'll be on it straight away.
because i admire your's and other's work

and i would be glad like to help.

96smitro · Post by **96smitro** » 11 Apr 2005 19:42

The Maglevs are really looking good! I assume this means that there is some Maglev track being produced (

) Can it be raised off the ground on pylons (one of the bridge types?) and will there be points? Will it replace or modify any of the files already in the game, or does it have completely independent files?

Maglevs will be such a great addition to the game - I am so excited (P.S Well done Scrat and Oppie for everything that you are doing, you have brought Locomotion to life!)

chevyrider · Post by **chevyrider** » 11 Apr 2005 21:57

Here some verified stats from my books.
ICK 44 ton 72 passengers + 3 seats on the balcony.
ICR 41 ton 80 passengers +12 seats on the balcony.
Bds 44 ton 52 passengers +17 seats on the balcony.

About the livery:
The new sprinter has the new Sprinter (all station train) livery.
For about the intercity services i saw years ago a drawing of that.
For what i can remember, it was for the biggest part N.S. blue with white accents.
The last time there are some investigations about what are the safest colors for trains, considering railroad workers.
Latest what i've heard is that yellow is the best color.
So it might be possible that the colors stay the same as they are now.

lobster · Post by **lobster** » 11 Apr 2005 23:15

i just was busy playing Lomo, with the NL, DB/DR & ORR sets, and i had 4 lines, no, networks empty since there isn't anything to transport grain with. and it's 1960, dammit!

but it's, again, very impressive. nice job!

chevyrider · Post by **chevyrider** » 11 Apr 2005 23:17

I mis a very important carriage in N.S. history.
This is Plan D , better known as "plan Dirk"
It was in use from 1950 till 1979.
Below, the site where i found the drawings and all stats:
http://users.bart.nl/~weerdg/planDE/planD/planD.html
Serie AB7701-7720 C7801-7840 RD7651-7660
Lengte 22.650 mm 22.650 mm 22.650 mm
Gewicht 47 ton 47 ton 48 ton
Aantal zitplaatsen 12 1e klas,36 2e klas 72 3e klas 15 restauratie
Fabrikant Werkspoor, Beijnes Werkspoor Beijnes
Bouwjaar 1950, 1951 1951 1951
http://www.martijnhaman.nl/

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