[Request] 4 Coach EMU's

[TheGrew]

Onee thing I thought that was odd in locomotion was that 3rd rail EMU's were formed of 2 coaches that compared to reality is small because there normaly made up of four. So is anyone out there willing to make 4 coach verions. Like the NL Train Sets EMU.

[scrat]

Onee thing I thought that was odd in locomotion was that 3rd rail EMU's were formed of 2 coaches that compared to reality is small because there normaly made up of four. So is anyone out there willing to make 4 coach verions. Like the NL Train Sets EMU.

That would be relatively easy to do, cause I could just use the existing graphics. I've done a 4 coach version of the Class 508 EMU (took about 4 minutes to do). If graphics need to be changed, please don't ask me; I'm crap at graphics.

[TheGrew]

What you did there was attach to together and double all the stats, what I am looking for is carragies in the middle so hp stays the same the coach but a huge increase in capacity which is over double (because you dont need a driving cab)

[scrat]

Will there also be an increase in cappacity and decrease weight and hp

For now I have just doubled the capacity, weight, price and power, but please tell me how you would like the stats to be.

[TheGrew]

Same horse power as two coach unit and increase capacity of two, two coach units to lets say 10 more in each carridge and perhaps add support for mail in the gards van (normaly second coach from the front).

[TheGrew]

Added A Poll+ When I said train I ment a EMU

[scrat]

Same horse power as two coach unit and increase capacity of two, two coach units to lets say 10 more in each carridge and perhaps add support for mail in the gards van (normaly second coach from the front).

Okay:
EMU-2
Power = 550hP
Passengers = 125
Mail = 5

EMU-4
Power = 550hP
Passengers = 270
Mail = 12
Cost and Running Costs = *2
Weight = *2

If you have locotool, this isn't very hard to do. To change a 2 unit EMU into a 4 unit EMU, change the following things:

Change the name:

EMU-2

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<object class="0x97" subclass="0x118280" name="508     "><chunk compression="1">

EMU-4

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<object class="0x97" subclass="0x118280" name="508_4   "><chunk compression="1">

Change the compatibility:

EMU-2

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	<useobject desc="compatible" class="23">508     </useobject>

EMU-4

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	<useobject desc="compatible" class="23">508_4   </useobject>

Change the number of carriages:

EMU-2

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	<unknown name="field_4" size="1">2</unknown>

EMU-4

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	<unknown name="field_4" size="1">4</unknown>

Change how the spites are displayed:

EMU-2

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	<structure name="field_24[0]" size="6">
		<variable name="length" size="1">30</variable>
		<unknown name="field_1" size="1">30</unknown>
		<unknown name="field_3" size="1">1</unknown>
		<variable name="spriteind" size="1">0</variable>
		<unknown name="field_5" size="1">64</unknown>
	</structure>
	<structure name="field_24[1]" size="6">
		<variable name="length" size="1">30</variable>
		<unknown name="field_1" size="1">30</unknown>
		<unknown name="field_2" size="1">1</unknown>
		<variable name="spriteind" size="1">128</variable>
		<unknown name="field_5" size="1">64</unknown>
	</structure>
	<structure name="field_24[2]" size="6">
		<variable name="length" size="1">0</variable>
		<variable name="spriteind" size="1">0</variable>
	</structure>
	<structure name="field_24[3]" size="6">
		<variable name="length" size="1">0</variable>
		<variable name="spriteind" size="1">0</variable>
	</structure>

EMU-4:

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	<structure name="field_24[0]" size="6">
		<variable name="length" size="1">30</variable>
		<unknown name="field_1" size="1">30</unknown>
		<unknown name="field_3" size="1">1</unknown>
		<variable name="spriteind" size="1">0</variable>
		<unknown name="field_5" size="1">64</unknown>
	</structure>
	<structure name="field_24[1]" size="6">
		<variable name="length" size="1">30</variable>
		<unknown name="field_1" size="1">30</unknown>
		<unknown name="field_2" size="1">1</unknown>
		<variable name="spriteind" size="1">128</variable>
		<unknown name="field_5" size="1">64</unknown>
	</structure>
	<structure name="field_24[2]" size="6">
		<variable name="length" size="1">30</variable>
		<unknown name="field_1" size="1">30</unknown>
		<unknown name="field_3" size="1">1</unknown>
		<variable name="spriteind" size="1">0</variable>
		<unknown name="field_5" size="1">64</unknown>
	</structure>
	<structure name="field_24[3]" size="6">
		<variable name="length" size="1">30</variable>
		<unknown name="field_1" size="1">30</unknown>
		<unknown name="field_2" size="1">1</unknown>
		<variable name="spriteind" size="1">128</variable>
		<unknown name="field_5" size="1">64</unknown>
	</structure>

Change the capacity:

EMU-2

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	<cargo num="0" capacity="125">
		<cargotype id="12">0</cargotype>
	</cargo>
	<cargo num="1" capacity="5">
		<cargotype id="13">0</cargotype>
	</cargo>

EMU-4

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	<cargo num="0" capacity="270">
		<cargotype id="12">0</cargotype>
	</cargo>
	<cargo num="1" capacity="12">
		<cargotype id="13">0</cargotype>
	</cargo>

Change the description:

EMU-2

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	<description num="0" language="0">Class 508 Electric Multiple Unit</description>
	<description num="0" language="1">Class 508 Electric Multiple Unit</description>
	<description num="0" language="2">Unité multiple électrique Classe 508</description>
	<description num="0" language="3">Class 508 Elektro-Mehrzweckfahrzeug</description>
	<description num="0" language="4">Unidad múltiple eléctrica de clase 508</description>
	<description num="0" language="5">Complesso elettrico classe 508</description>
	<description num="0" language="9">508 ÿµîÿ±Þ ÿÀüÿ±â ÿ´Ùÿ¿ë ÿÂ÷ÿ·®</description>
	<description num="0" language="11">508 ÿ«¬ÿ¹qÿÁpÿ¨®</description>

EMU-4

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	<description num="0" language="0">Class 508 Electric Multiple Unit 4</description>
	<description num="0" language="1">Class 508 Electric Multiple Unit 4</description>
	<description num="0" language="2">Unité multiple électrique 4 Classe 508</description>
	<description num="0" language="3">Class 508 Elektro-Mehrzweckfahrzeug 4</description>
	<description num="0" language="4">Unidad múltiple eléctrica 4 de clase 508</description>
	<description num="0" language="5">Complesso elettrico 4 classe 508</description>
	<description num="0" language="9">508 4 ÿµîÿ±Þ ÿÀüÿ±â ÿ´Ùÿ¿ë ÿÂ÷ÿ·®</description>
	<description num="0" language="11">508 4 ÿ«¬ÿ¹qÿÁpÿ¨®</description>

Change the weight:

EMU-2

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	<variable name="weight" size="2">65</variable>

EMU-4

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	<variable name="weight" size="2">130</variable>

Change the cost:
EMU-2

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	<variable name="costfact" size="2">89</variable>

EMU-4

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	<variable name="costfact" size="2">178</variable>

Change the running costs:

EMU-2

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	<variable name="runcostfact" size="2">11</variable>

EMU-4

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	<variable name="runcostfact" size="2">22</variable>

School's out.

[Thinlizzy]

What about a 4 coach EPB. I work on 5176 occassionally, which is a 4 coach EPB in preservation so i'll try and get photos of the centre cars if anyone is interested

[metalangel]

MU coaches without cabs really carry DOUBLE as many passengers?

[ChrisCF]

well, between 4 cars, they would carry double the number you'd get in 2 cars

[metalangel]

That makes sense, it just read as 'if it's just the carriage and doesn't incorporate the seperate cab where the driver sits, it holds twice as much because the cab takes up so much space'.

Confoozled yet?

[TheGrew]

I think this is a typo but it only holds 14 passengers

[Derek McD]

The QR CityTrains here are 3 car EMUs. They are not 3rd Rail trians but still it would be nice to have something like that. Although, i don't really car much. Just thought I might share my knowledge and tell you that there is a 3 car out there.

They use the 3car trains during peak times so that more trains can be put on the track. Most of them are 2 3car units together.

[Thinlizzy]

We have 3 car sets in England mate. They normally come about through damaged coaches.
We have this wierd inter-coach swapping system over here

The 508's were reduced to 3 coaches from 4 and the spare coaches were used in phase 4 455 Suburban EMU's
The 4 coach CEPs of Kent were reduced to 3 coaches for some places and now SWT has a dedicate 3 car unit, 1198, running a branch line in the new forest

Thats the easy version, we could into units swapping buffet cars for Trailor standard opens and creating a new sub class in the process

[scrat]

I think this is a typo but it only holds 14 passengers

My bad.

EMU-4

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   <cargo num="0" capacity="255">
      <cargotype id="12">0</cargotype>
   </cargo>
   <cargo num="1" capacity="27">
      <cargotype id="13">0</cargotype>
   </cargo> 

[fsdave]

In Scotland ive yet to see a 4 car EMU.....

Our trains run in 3s two with cab at either end and one with a toilet in the middle.

Thats in the 334s and the 318s and the older 314s

And at peak times they sometimes couple 2 trains together to make a 6 car.

Thats ok with the 318s and 314s as you can walk between both trains. But in the stupid 334s you cant >_<

[jdtech]

Yeah, SWT owns a 3-CEP which is ran on the Brockenhurst - Lymington Branch Line, which is in the New Forest.

Cheers,
John