Purno's New Bridge Graphics

[Szappy]

-Updated 2006.05.08.-

be sure to have newbridges=on in your ttdpatch.cfg

Currently you can use the following parameters:
1. parameter roadset
0 default roads
1 Andrex roadset ('TrafficSet')
2 EuroRoadset
3 US Roadset

2. parameter Oskar's bridge
0 default tubular bridges
1 use with Oskar's bridge, so it does not touch the tubular
you still need Oskar's grf file, this one does NOT include it.

Be careful though, because Oskar did not support other roadsets, so his bridge will not align with any other roadset.
Also you should place any roadset, and Oskar's bridge before this, in the newgrfw.cfg
And of course do not turn on Oskar's bridge with the 2nd parameter set to 0, or you'll get strange results.

[AvAtAr]

Szappy (or somebody else)

could you give me(us) a ling where we could find Oskar's bridges and the roadset?

thx

[Snail]

Pardon my ignorance... what do you mean by "2 will be euroroadset"?
I thought parameters only accepted 0 or 1 values (False or True)... does your first parameter accept three values instead? (0, 1 or 2)?

[Szappy]

could you give me(us) a ling where we could find Oskar's bridges and the roadset?

Oskar has a site, you know, and the Trafficset (among other very nice things) can be found at TTD Urban Renawal site.

Pardon my ignorance... what do you mean by "2 will be euroroadset"?
I thought parameters only accepted 0 or 1 values (False or True)... does your first parameter accept three values instead? (0, 1 or 2)?

You're wrong, parameters can accept any value. And yes, the first parameter will accept 3 values, and maybe more, if new roadsets come out.

[Hyronymus]

Take a look ate the DBset for example, you can add various combinations of parameters to get a desired effect.

[Snail]

Take a look ate the DBset for example, you can add various combinations of parameters to get a desired effect.

That's true.
But in the DB set each parameter is expressed as a power of 2, and the result will be a number which is the sum of all the "active" parameters... like, 1 for the railway gates, 2 for the tankers livery, 4 for the stake wagon behavior etc.

in that case, there will be only one final number which contains all of the parametes' info... like a Binary system, so for instance, value 6 will mean random tanker livery + random stake wagons

At least that's how I thought parameters worked!

[Jezulkim]

Doesn't newbridges support new bridges?

[Szappy]

That's true.
But in the DB set each parameter is expressed as a power of 2, and the result will be a number which is the sum of all the "active" parameters... like, 1 for the railway gates, 2 for the tankers livery, 4 for the stake wagon behavior etc.

in that case, there will be only one final number which contains all of the parametes' info... like a Binary system, so for instance, value 6 will mean random tanker livery + random stake wagons

At least that's how I thought parameters worked!

It can work that way too, and I could have coded it like that, but:
-I wanted different sets to be exclusive to each other, and that method does not allow this.
-it's more difficult to program, using bit-shifting, and bit-masking. It looked easier this way.

Doesn't newbridges support new bridges?

Yes. So...

BTW this is way offtopic. May I get some feedback for the bridges too?

[Eddy]

OK here it is. Go ahead and test it.

How can I test it. When I want to download it then some weird characters appear. I tried to make them a .grf but it didn't work. So how can I get it to work ?

[Szappy]

How can I test it. When I want to download it then some weird characters appear. I tried to make them a .grf but it didn't work. So how can I get it to work ?

Just right click on "Download", and select "Save Target As..."

[Jezulkim]

Doesn't newbridges support new bridges?

Yes. So...

These bridges aren't add-ons these are replacements.

[Szappy]

These bridges aren't add-ons these are replacements.

Oh NOW I understand what you meant.
So, no you cannot add new bridges to the list, you can only replace existin ones. But you can do so on a per bridge basis, without any sprite sharing.
That's 44 bridges possible in total, which should be more than enough. The reason I haven't done that, is because there aren't enough usable sprites in 'trg1r.grf'.
I don't have a clue where you got the idea, that you can add new bridges, none of the new patch features work like that, you can only overwrite existing ID's.
(the 'newstations', and 'newhouses' work in another way, no IDs there, so that's not an example for the opposite)

[Colonel32]

Are there any more bridge slots left, or were they all taken alredy?

[Jezulkim]

I just thought that if you can have new stations and new buildings then you can have new bridges...

[Szappy]

Are there any more bridge slots left, or were they all taken alredy?

Well... Purno drew "only" 15 bridges, so in theory, there are new slots, alhough I've nearly ran out of sprites in trg1r.grf.
As long as someone writes action 1,2,3 support for it, there can (maybe) one more bridge added, and the suspension, and the cantilever replaced (those sprites are from the original now).

BTW you can download, and see for yourself. I might get some feedback that way too... hint...

[lobster]

OK here it is. Go ahead and test it.

*cough* DOS VERSION! *cough*

[Colonel32]

Are there any more bridge slots left, or were they all taken alredy?

Well... Purno drew "only" 15 bridges, so in theory, there are new slots, alhough I've nearly ran out of sprites in trg1r.grf.
As long as someone writes action 1,2,3 support for it, there can (maybe) one more bridge added, and the suspension, and the cantilever replaced (those sprites are from the original now).

BTW you can download, and see for yourself. I might get some feedback that way too... hint...

I am asking because there aren't too many bridges which would go over three tiles (ramp - one tile bridge - ramp), but those I use the most often. There is a high-speed one (cca 280Kph) but I just don't like the blue handles around it. But I waas thinking, if it would be possilble to allow some of the nice green cantilievers to be build in this configuration.

[cornelius]

BTW you can download, and see for yourself. I might get some feedback that way too... :? hint...

One of the suspension bridges (the 100mph one, I think), came up with the original yelow suspension bridge graphics when I built it.

[Colonel32]

but it came with yellow ramps, so maybe it was ment that way

[Szappy]

One of the suspension bridges (the 100mph one, I think), came up with the original yelow suspension bridge graphics when I built it.

Yes, that is intentional:
-Purno drew only 2 suspension bridges
-I have corrected the pillars for higherbridges earlier, and those got included too
-As I have said "[...] there can (maybe) one more bridge added, and the suspension, and the cantilever replaced (those sprites are from the original now)."

*cough* DOS VERSION! *cough*

I said "It's WIN only, if anyone can point me a good way to convert it to DOS, I'll do it though."
Nevertheless I've made a Dos version too (check in the original post).
Be observant though, because it's likely to contain graphical glitches, and I'd like some feedback on it...

I am asking because there aren't too many bridges which would go over three tiles (ramp - one tile bridge - ramp), but those I use the most often. There is a high-speed one (cca 280Kph) but I just don't like the blue handles around it. But I waas thinking, if it would be possilble to allow some of the nice green cantilievers to be build in this configuration.

The problem is that the (green) cantilever is built up from 3 pieces, a start, a middle piece, and an endpiece. So the absolute minimum length would be 2(+ramps) for those bridges otherwise it will look very ugly (only the start piece will be built for a one-length bridge)... sorry