European Cargo Set (ECS) - PROJECT LEADER NEEDED!

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 26 May 2004 09:28

Colonel32, it looks great but we'll need cars that are loaded, half loaded, unloaded, loading, etc...

Shading is not that difficult, just remember that in TTD light come from the right, so all you have to do is make the right side somewhat lighter than the left side.

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 26 May 2004 09:40

And could you do the shading?

after the shading is done, all the loadnig stages should be done.

BTW: you said it looks great. Do you really mean it?
If you find any mistakes or see anything that should be changed, jest tell me. I learn by trial and error.

C32

Saskia · Post by **Saskia** » 26 May 2004 09:57

hey, it looks really good

But I think you should make it a pixel wider in diagonal views

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 26 May 2004 10:07

2 Saskia
Thanks, I'll see what I can do.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 26 May 2004 10:12

Colonel32, it's really good, but I've some comments

I've put them in your file.

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 26 May 2004 12:09

THX, I'll redraw

btw: here is how it looks in real

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 26 May 2004 12:29

Uae/Eas-u V1.1

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 26 May 2004 12:31

Colonel32 wrote:Uae/Eas-u V1.1

very good, but after I saw the picture, I realise that the car is somewhat high in all views.

But it looks very nice! Keep up the good work!

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 26 May 2004 12:40

I thought it would be nice to have a list of things to draw.

First we need a list of every type of cargo.

Then we need at least 1 car for every type of cargo.

There are two options (I believe) when we have more cargo carriages than types of cargo:

1. We need refit option. This way you can decide which car you want for a specific type of cargo. (You want Shell tanker, you want BP tanker, whatever). So you can use these tankers too for products as water or milk (or whatever cargo types are liquid)

2. We use randomize option. You buy some oil tanker and you got shell tankes, bp tankers, whatever tanker, in your train. This way you don't have to refit carriages.

So next to do:

- List of cargo types
- List of vehicles to be in European Cargo Set (if you have a request, just post it!)
- Decide if we want to use option 1, 2 or another one

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 26 May 2004 12:42

Uas/Eas-u V1.2

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 26 May 2004 12:47

Colonel32,

It's better but still to high.

Try to cut off another whole pixel in height. Now it looks like the original Iron Ore Hopper while it the photo you posted looked more like the Coal Truck. (In all views)

And add a colum of 1 pixel in / view at the right end, and in \ view at the left end.

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 26 May 2004 13:08

I really don't want to lower it anymore, because it has to be higher than those 2-axle Es coal cars.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 26 May 2004 13:10

okay, it looks very good!

Hyronymus · Post by **Hyronymus** » 26 May 2004 13:11

I don't think they're too high. They look good to me. Try comparing them with a picture (hint: search for bietencampagne)

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 26 May 2004 13:12

Hyronymus wrote:Try comparing them with a picture

I did.

Saskia · Post by **Saskia** » 26 May 2004 14:40

Vehicle suggestions

Very important is the Falns coal/ore hopper:
http://www.acmattheis.de/hobby/images/m ... GR3486.jpg
http://www.e-d-pfau.de/Falns%20121%20DB.gif

And the ore/stone/grain hopper Fcs (I think Raven drew one):
http://www.acmattheis.de/hobby/images/m ... R33569.jpg
http://www.acmattheis.de/hobby/images/m ... GR3448.jpg
http://www.acmattheis.de/hobby/images/m ... 3421_2.jpg

Long tankers for oil/gas aka. goods (first is for oil, second for gas):
http://www.maerklin-info.de/product_fil ... /46554.jpg

Sliding-wall cars like MB did:
[google for schiebewand-wagen, there are too many different]

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 26 May 2004 15:14

I've made a quick spreadsheet with some info.

What do you all (broodje, mauro, Raven, Saskia, Snorbuckle) think about it?

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 26 May 2004 17:08

Wow people, you've posted an awesome amount of things since yesterday, hehe,
Purno, I think we should

Combine 1 and 2, so we could have some random wagons for a specific type of wagon, such as for example, Shell, Esso, etc for Oil, White, grey Blue (?), for Goods, and so on.

The biggest set i've seen till now, the dbxl is something about 3000 out of 11000 sprites, so we can exteeeeend as much as we like.

About my drawings, I've found a Märklin catalogue and just went mad drawing , heheh, so there are just side views and are only roughly sketched.
When we know what we want i'll finish them off.
I would like to help on planing, but have work to do, Anyway, if you need some heavy graphic work, i'll like to do it, just pm to tell me, cause I don't connect too often and get lost in these thousand of posts.

I suggest to reduce them to a minimum, not posting the little improvements in asingle wagon every time, but updating the attachment, and talk about small things via chat - pm. As i said, just a suggestion...

Keep up the good job!.

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 26 May 2004 17:54

Vsa/Eas-u: weight:23 tons Capacity:59 tons

Let's add:

Falls/Wap (it was suggested allready)
Faccs/Sas
Uacs/Raj

I'd take these.

Colonel32 · Post by **Colonel32** » 26 May 2004 18:24

NEWS:

Eas is now available in 2 different versions:
->Brown and ->Red
you can find both so I suggest, that it would show random liverty, defined by parameter:
1: only brown
2: both, trains consists of one type only
3: both, random liverty for each carrige

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