Graphics without .nfo files [needs coders!]

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 10 May 2004 06:43

Here are some more of my graphics. Two little Dutch busses. I once made a large one, but I think that one was too big to fit in the game

eis_os · Post by **eis_os** » 10 May 2004 07:40

Sorry to offtopic a bit:

To change grfcodec isn't that easy ...

Action Colors, If you like a visual display of action colors try the coordinates3d.png on my site

It's a palette based png file so the palette indexes should right aswell.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 17 May 2004 07:02

I've made some elements for Dutch stations (signs, roofs, platforms).

These could be used with the suggested Station Creator tool, or else it needs a coder

broodje · Post by **broodje** » 17 May 2004 07:51

Hmm I like the busses +stations
We should think about that

I haven't mastered nfo-ing the stations yet. I think I understand the general idea, but Patchman always makes sure my idea of how it works is totaly worng

Anyway before I will do anything extra I should finish a bunch of emu's for the ns set

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BTW as a sugestion, you should try to pixel some dutch steam engines

Hyronymus · Post by **Hyronymus** » 17 May 2004 07:58

Purno why don't you slow down a bit

. You're spamming the forum with graphics

!

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 17 May 2004 10:56

broodje wrote:Hmm I like the busses +stations
We should think about that

Think??? Do you need to think about that?

broodje wrote:I haven't mastered nfo-ing the stations yet. I think I understand the general idea, but Patchman always makes sure my idea of how it works is totaly worng

Happens with me too when you or Hyronymus are trying to explain how ID's work

broodje wrote:Anyway before I will do anything extra I should finish a bunch of emu's for the ns set .

Absolutely!

broodje wrote:BTW as a sugestion, you should try to pixel some dutch steam engines

ehmmm... st-st-st-stea-steam engines???

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Hyronymus wrote:Purno why don't you slow down a bit .

Do you really want that?

Hyronymus wrote:You're spamming the forum with graphics !

Better than spamming the forum with useless texts.

pasky · Post by **pasky** » 17 May 2004 12:34

I hope you won't mind a little bit of critics, it can only make it even better... ;-) (We are planning to migrate to PNG files with some easier interface than NFO files in mid-term perspective with OTTD, see OpenTTD Development for details.)

I think your graphics misses some areas for company-specific color (or is that the dark gray?). Also, differences between the buses being only in color is not enough, I think, there should be at least some minor difference in the shape as well. And regarding the stations, are the houses big enough, compared to the signs nearby? (How big are they in reality, do you have any photo?) Also there is probably slight glitch in the perspective of the houses, they appear to be not quite lined up with the global train station perspective but rotated by few degrees.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 17 May 2004 12:39

pasky wrote:I hope you won't mind a little bit of critics, it can only make it even better... (We are planning to migrate to PNG files with some easier interface than NFO files in mid-term perspective with OTTD, see OpenTTD Development for details.)

I think your graphics misses some areas for company-specific color (or is that the dark gray?). Also, differences between the buses being only in color is not enough, I think, there should be at least some minor difference in the shape as well. And regarding the stations, are the houses big enough, compared to the signs nearby? (How big are they in reality, do you have any photo?) Also there is probably slight glitch in the perspective of the houses, they appear to be not quite lined up with the global train station perspective but rotated by few degrees.

You don't know any Dutch buses or stations so I think you didn't understand it correctly.

The two buses are real Dutch buses, the buses's shapes are almost the same but they are from two different companies. The color difference is only for reality, not for gameplay.

The station doesn't have any company color. The signs are maybe somewhat big, but else you can't see any detail.

The buildings on the platforms are not houses, but just small shelters for people when it rains for example. The station in this example doesn't have a building.

pasky · Post by **pasky** » 17 May 2004 13:20

Purno wrote: You don't know any Dutch buses or stations so I think you didn't understand it correctly.

Purno wrote: The two buses are real Dutch buses, the buses's shapes are almost the same but they are from two different companies. The color difference is only for reality, not for gameplay.

Exactly. And that's it, gameplay and reality is not always same. I think it's
quite important for gameplay to be able to easily identify each company's
vehicles based on their colors.

Purno wrote: The station doesn't have any company color. The signs are maybe somewhat big, but else you can't see any detail.

I think they could do being a little smaller but that's matter of opinion. I
think it's not very practical to have stations not in company color, though.

Purno wrote: The buildings on the platforms are not houses, but just small shelters for people when it rains for example. The station in this example doesn't have a building.

Yes I thought they won't be real houses but I didn't know what they were in
reality. I just want to say that they don't quite line up with the train
station contours.

broodje · Post by **broodje** » 17 May 2004 13:42

pasky you can want a lot but I think purno posted them in the same way he makes sprites for the dutch set, and the dutch set doesn't have any company colours...
btw you can see the company by looking at the fences...

Saskia · Post by **Saskia** » 17 May 2004 14:20

Without comments

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 17 May 2004 14:23

Saskia wrote:Without comments

1. What exactly is it?

2. I only see it in one direction ( | view, where are / - and \ views?)

Saskia · Post by **Saskia** » 17 May 2004 15:35

1. It's the ultimate S-Bahn-Schild (S-Bahn sign)

It's often placed on S-Bahn stations or in front of them.
2. I just drawed it quickly in mspaint, here at work

Colonel Sheperd · Post by **Colonel Sheperd** » 17 May 2004 15:47

Hyronymus wrote:Purno why don't you slow down a bit . You're spamming the forum with graphics !

hey, be happy that we got a major artist here that is also a "serial drawer"

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 17 May 2004 15:59

Yes indeedy.

to Purno.

pasky · Post by **pasky** » 17 May 2004 18:28

broodje wrote:pasky you can want a lot but I think purno posted them in the same way he makes sprites for the dutch set, and the dutch set doesn't have any company colours...
btw you can see the company by looking at the fences...

Of course, these are just ideas and some feedback from a fresh new person... ;)

Fences color aren't much useful for road vehicles, and even for rails they don't work out everytime - especially in arctic/tropic climate on snow/desert.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 17 May 2004 21:49

But isn't there a huuuge name in your comany colors just above the stations???. Can't find the problem not having the station in the ugly colors of ttdx companies

MagicBuzz · Post by **MagicBuzz** » 17 May 2004 22:33

zero1000 wrote:about the german sign posts, both shapes are possible (the 1st one is a little bit more common):

I think colors and shapes should be "random", because each country uses its own colors.

Here in France, blue is used to tell the destination is by speedway. Green for "bis" way (if we don't want to take speedway - in France we must pay to use speedways) and white to tell we will use normal way. Yellow is used only for "deviation" (when the way is blocked and we must use another way).

Here is a list off all types of french direction pannel. You can see there are a lot ! I think it's the same in each country, so random colors will be better

(sorry pictures are very low quality)

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 19 May 2004 06:32

MagicBuzz, I suspect you want me to draw these French sign-posts?

Raven · Post by **Raven** » 22 May 2004 14:18

Hadn't i got to studyu something like that to get my driving license??
Whatever...

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