Temporal8´s Real Trucks 1.2 Released!

[temporal8]

My 32bpp truck set with company colours and loaded/unloaded graphics.

Real Trucks provides trucks and buses in 32bpp from the year 1950 onwards!

It is compatible with all types of loads! Although there are specific trucks for some loads, the Box Truck can be converted to any load!
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Past, Present Day and Future models: Old Trucks since 1950, Diesel Trucks since 1995 and Electric Trucks since 2025!





Download here: (or at Bananas)

New Versión 1.2 Released:
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[ChillCore]

Congrats on the release.

[vishalmunotjain]

Dude you did awesome job , also create some realistic trucks like american peterbilt volvo mack etc and also add european truck like mercedes scania volvo it would be more fun to see those long trucks and trailers compatible with the xis extreme industry grf

[goremaniac]

[temporal8]

Thanks guys!

[Miranda23]

My 32bpp truck set with company colours and loaded/unloaded graphics.


Real-Trucks-Banner.png

truck-list.png


Download here: (or at Bananas)
Real_Trucks_1_0.grf

They look great, congrats on your release

[numbat]

These look great, thanks for the work.

I notice that the trucks are very slow when loaded. I have an articulated tanker that only manages around 34kmh when loaded. Is this something I can change easily at my end?

Regards,
Chris.

[temporal8]

It shouldn't happen, I just checked the source code and there is nothing for that to happen.

Maybe it happens on low speed streets?

Check the configuration options: adaptable max speed.

[Dennis007]

Can i install your graphics when i have the Zbase installed?

[skc]

Can i install your graphics when i have the Zbase installed?

Given that zBase is ground tiles and interface, and Real Trucks is a vehicle set, I can't see how there'd be any conflict.

[numbat]

It shouldn't happen, I just checked the source code and there is nothing for that to happen.

Maybe it happens on low speed streets?

Check the configuration options: adaptable max speed.

Hi and thanks for the response.

I'm not sure what "low speed streets" are. The base trucks all run fine, and when I click on info for the road it just says "road".

Adaptable max speed is off.

Regards,
Chris.

[numbat]

Just tried it with the adaptable speed on, and it made no difference.

As an example, I have an articulated covered truck carrying coal. fully loaded it takes an age to accelerate to 40kmh. unloaded, it does the full 90kmh.
Perhaps that's normal when fully loaded?

Cheers,
Chris.

[temporal8]

Just tried it with the adaptable speed on, and it made no difference.

As an example, I have an articulated covered truck carrying coal. fully loaded it takes an age to accelerate to 40kmh. unloaded, it does the full 90kmh.
Perhaps that's normal when fully loaded?

Cheers,
Chris.

Hi, sorry for the delay in answering, I don't know, I'll investigate.
Cheers.

[makar0niasty]

Just tried it with the adaptable speed on, and it made no difference.

As an example, I have an articulated covered truck carrying coal. fully loaded it takes an age to accelerate to 40kmh. unloaded, it does the full 90kmh.
Perhaps that's normal when fully loaded?

Cheers,
Chris.

Hi, sorry for the delay in answering, I don't know, I'll investigate.
Cheers.

Hmm...could this be they are just very weak as in low power/tractive effort? Unfortunately as pretty as this set is, trucks are visibly slower in acceleration, and once loaded, or worse, loaded and facing a hill, they slow to a crawl unfortunately. Other sets often have HP/kN values 2-3x bigger.
This does not seem to be an issue in the semi-truck set released (gorgeous btw!) but values there are way higher as well.

[temporal8]

Hmm...could this be they are just very weak as in low power/tractive effort? Unfortunately as pretty as this set is, trucks are visibly slower in acceleration, and once loaded, or worse, loaded and facing a hill, they slow to a crawl unfortunately. Other sets often have HP/kN values 2-3x bigger.
This does not seem to be an issue in the semi-truck set released (gorgeous btw!) but values there are way higher as well.

Thanks man, You have told me a very good piece of information, I am going to investigate the power/tractive effort to see if I can solve it, Surely the solution is to increase the engine HP.

[temporal8]

Real Trucks 1.01: Tractive Effort fixed!

I raised the engine HP and fixed it, this happened when "Road Vehicle Acceleration model" was set on Realistic mode, but now it doesn't matter anymore.

Real_Trucks_1_01.grf

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[numbat]

Hi Temporal8,

thanks very much for fixing that. So much better now.

Cheers,
Chris.

[makar0niasty]

Hmm...could this be they are just very weak as in low power/tractive effort? Unfortunately as pretty as this set is, trucks are visibly slower in acceleration, and once loaded, or worse, loaded and facing a hill, they slow to a crawl unfortunately. Other sets often have HP/kN values 2-3x bigger.
This does not seem to be an issue in the semi-truck set released (gorgeous btw!) but values there are way higher as well.

Thanks man, You have told me a very good piece of information, I am going to investigate the power/tractive effort to see if I can solve it, Surely the solution is to increase the engine HP.

Thank YOU for the quick fix
EDIT: just checked the new set out - HP value appears about doubled but tractive effort shows the same in trucks description - 15kN only. While faster than 1.0 version, it is still accelerating visibly slower than other sets (comparing vs Czech and Timberwolf sets). Playing with the "realistic acceleration on" and slope steepness of 7%.

And looking forward to other sets...like cargo ships ?

[temporal8]

Hmm...could this be they are just very weak as in low power/tractive effort? Unfortunately as pretty as this set is, trucks are visibly slower in acceleration, and once loaded, or worse, loaded and facing a hill, they slow to a crawl unfortunately. Other sets often have HP/kN values 2-3x bigger.
This does not seem to be an issue in the semi-truck set released (gorgeous btw!) but values there are way higher as well.

Thanks man, You have told me a very good piece of information, I am going to investigate the power/tractive effort to see if I can solve it, Surely the solution is to increase the engine HP.

Thank YOU for the quick fix
EDIT: just checked the new set out - HP value appears about doubled but tractive effort shows the same in trucks description - 15kN only. While faster than 1.0 version, it is still accelerating visibly slower than other sets (comparing vs Czech and Timberwolf sets). Playing with the "realistic acceleration on" and slope steepness of 7%.

And looking forward to other sets...like cargo ships ?

I'm not sure if already created trucks are modified, I think, I'm not sure, that you have to create new trucks from scratch to see the changes.
I'm going to check it anyway, the point is that these little trucks usually load no more than 5 tons in real life (with 100 hp or 120 hp) for game propouses I'm making them load 40 tons, two options: I Raise HP to a ridiculously high number (the original Openttd ones i think have 400 hp) or lower the cargo capacity.


My next plans are trains, trains, trains but I plan at some point to make at least 1 single cargo ship (that is refitable to all types of cargo) so that at least 32 bpp players have a way to transport cargo .

[makar0niasty]

Thanks man, You have told me a very good piece of information, I am going to investigate the power/tractive effort to see if I can solve it, Surely the solution is to increase the engine HP.

Thank YOU for the quick fix
EDIT: just checked the new set out - HP value appears about doubled but tractive effort shows the same in trucks description - 15kN only. While faster than 1.0 version, it is still accelerating visibly slower than other sets (comparing vs Czech and Timberwolf sets). Playing with the "realistic acceleration on" and slope steepness of 7%.

And looking forward to other sets...like cargo ships ?

I'm not sure if already created trucks are modified, I think, I'm not sure, that you have to create new trucks from scratch to see the changes.
I'm going to check it anyway, the point is that these little trucks usually load no more than 5 tons in real life (with 100 hp or 120 hp) for game propouses I'm making them load 40 tons, two options: I Raise HP to a ridiculously high number (the original Openttd ones i think have 400 hp) or lower the cargo capacity.


My next plans are trains, trains, trains but I plan at some point to make at least 1 single cargo ship (that is refitable to all types of cargo) so that at least 32 bpp players have a way to transport cargo .

I have also tested with new trucks as well as in a new game. What would perhaps help would just increasing the tractive effort to 25-30kN i.e. not to crazy but would definitely help with acceleration and uphill. Timberwolf set usually uses similar values i.e. 300-400HP and 25-35 kN and it does work pretty well.
Now as for capacity - well, I love those longer trucks with 44 mail, but smaller ones are actually tad small, with just 18, it makes it not that useful, other than for tiniest industries/towns. Perhaps one could even increase it to 25 at least ? Maybe even the longer ones could be increased to 60, which would provide a solid choice for some small/medium routes, without resorting to semi-trucks (yet)?

Speaking of semi trucks - any chance of increasing the capacity of the dedicated wood/logs/timber ones ? They do look gorgeous but only have 44 capacity...the big trucks can be refitted to those cargos but without the "woody" graphics sadly.

Trains you say? Aaach yes, forgot it's a train game xD Certainly looking forward to that as well
But let's not forget those pesky ships....so that the passengers ferries won't feel oppressed by all the cargo pixelation around xD