Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
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Re: Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
Yes.MarkShot wrote:Thanks.
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Re: Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
Both.
Based on download counts, and screenshots of people's games.
FIRS isn't a replacement for ECS, they are distinctly different, so players can explore different gameplay
Based on download counts, and screenshots of people's games.
FIRS isn't a replacement for ECS, they are distinctly different, so players can explore different gameplay
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Re: Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
If I am using the zBase, do I need to download specific vehicles and other objects to support the FIRS and ECS economies or will the work with the standard vehicles?
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Re: Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
You WILL need vehicle sets which support the cargoes introduced by the sets. Default vehicles, sadly, do not support these.MarkShot wrote:If I am using the zBase, do I need to download specific vehicles and other objects to support the FIRS and ECS economies or will the work with the standard vehicles?
Thanks.
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Re: Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
So, I am just looking for four sets for each of FIRS and ECS which are: rail, road, ship, and air?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Re: Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
I downloaded as it claims to make everything compatible:
"ECS & FIRS vehicle set"
from the standard game.
"ECS & FIRS vehicle set"
from the standard game.
Re: Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
Sounds about right, although I haven't used that set myself. I think most vehicle GRFs (sets) support most or all cargos. I like NUTS, myself, it's my kind of crazy. It also comes with color-coded tracks, or you can get them separately as PURR.
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Re: Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
Might work, yet that probably is - in my opinion - one of the worst. Use nearly any other complete set and train support will be better for both sets. Usually sets support different cargoes by showing them when loaded etc.MarkShot wrote:I downloaded as it claims to make everything compatible:
"ECS & FIRS vehicle set"
from the standard game.
EDIT: My pick would be OpenGFX+ Trains, OpenGFX+ RoadVehicles, Squid At Fish, av9, HEQS, and some choice of NARS, IronHorse, DutchTrains, Japanese, Czech, ussr sets. And maybe additionally egrvts for road vehicles.
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Re: Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
Might you suggest two complete sets for me? PM (if you feel it is in bad taste like an endorsement)
BTW, my homeland is the USA, but I am currently living in China.
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Re: Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
Grab 2cct in nml then, it cover trains all over the world, and you can cherry-pick for example trains only from Asia+North America. Egrvts for generic road vehicles, WAS for airplanes in national liveries, squid or fish set for ships.MarkShot wrote: BTW, my homeland is the USA, but I am currently living in China.
Edit: corrected.
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Projects: Reproducible Map Generation patch, NewGRFs: Manpower industries, PolTrams, Polroad, 600mm narrow gauge, wired, ECS industry extension, V4 CEE train set, HotHut.
Another favorite games: freeciv longturn, OHOL/2HOL.
Projects: Reproducible Map Generation patch, NewGRFs: Manpower industries, PolTrams, Polroad, 600mm narrow gauge, wired, ECS industry extension, V4 CEE train set, HotHut.
Another favorite games: freeciv longturn, OHOL/2HOL.
Re: Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
I found
2cc TrainsInNML
eGRVTS
But am having trouble finding "WAT" and "squid".
Thanks.
2cc TrainsInNML
eGRVTS
But am having trouble finding "WAT" and "squid".
Thanks.
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Re: Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
it's WAS. (= World Airliner Set.)
And "Squid Ate Fish" (as one name)
Both are on banananas
And "Squid Ate Fish" (as one name)
Both are on banananas
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Re: Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
Thanks. I grabbed everything I needed.
Are these two files still applicable?
ECSext-2.1.tar
FIXES-5.tar
Thanks!
Are these two files still applicable?
ECSext-2.1.tar
FIXES-5.tar
Thanks!
Re: Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
Is this ECS configuration correct? I don't things look right in the game.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Re: Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
If you want not-too-basic sets, here are the sets I propose.MarkShot wrote:So, I am just looking for four sets for each of FIRS and ECS which are: rail, road, ship, and air?
Thanks.
If you like realistic vehicles, try UKRS and Bob's British Buses + Bob's Random British Vehicles.
If you have nothing against generic vehicles, try Iron Horse 2 and Road Hog.
For ships and aircraft, use Squid ate FISH or redFISH for ships and av8 Aviators Aircraft. They suit all games based on all environments (except Toyland, but that's another story).
Also, Town vector must be placed under the Basic vector.
Another thing : do NOT use the Construction vector. It's outdated and useless, too.
Re: Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
No matter what I do. I keep getting this error.
Help, please!
Help, please!
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Re: Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
I have same error when using JGR patch pack, probably ECS is outdated against current version.
Other industry grf is SPI - it is based on FIRS, but more challenging, need both substrates to be stockpiled, to run production, and some primary industries need passengers for full speed production.
Other industry grf is SPI - it is based on FIRS, but more challenging, need both substrates to be stockpiled, to run production, and some primary industries need passengers for full speed production.
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Projects: Reproducible Map Generation patch, NewGRFs: Manpower industries, PolTrams, Polroad, 600mm narrow gauge, wired, ECS industry extension, V4 CEE train set, HotHut.
Another favorite games: freeciv longturn, OHOL/2HOL.
Projects: Reproducible Map Generation patch, NewGRFs: Manpower industries, PolTrams, Polroad, 600mm narrow gauge, wired, ECS industry extension, V4 CEE train set, HotHut.
Another favorite games: freeciv longturn, OHOL/2HOL.
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Re: Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
Not outdated. Specs didn't change. OpenTTD became more thorough in catching and complaining about undefined behaviour.McZapkie wrote:I have same error when using JGR patch pack, probably ECS is outdated against current version.
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Re: Are FIRS and ECS both still in use or just FIRS?
Are these two files still applicable?
ECSext-2.1.tar
FIXES-5.tar
Thanks!
ECSext-2.1.tar
FIXES-5.tar
Thanks!
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