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French Trains Set - Narrow Gauge v1.1: Release Thread

Post by Snail » 02 Dec 2018 05:34

Mesdames et Messieurs,

I'm honored to present you the first release of the

French Trains Set (Narrow Gauge)

Version 1.0.02 is the first fully playable public release, and it includes locomotives, railcars, and wagons spanning from the early 1880s, when most narrow gauge railway networks got started, until the present days. It models a bunch or real-world companies, each with its historical rolling stock and liveries.
ECS and FIRS (up to version 3.0.10) industry sets are fully supported.

The Set can be played in either Temperate or Arctic climates and comes in two flavors: a "basic" one focused on the most common rolling stock across the country (mainly steamers and diesels), and an "alpine" one centered on mountain lines and their rolling stock (mainly electrics).
For those who don't care about realism, historical correctness and other geeky rivet counter stuff, there is also a "toy" mode that's more faithful to the simple, immediate style of the original TTD.

The Set also includes its own new tracks, featuring 7 track types in total. Each track type comes with new graphics and specific characteristics.

The Set is fully translated in French and Italian, and partly translated in German, Spanish, and Dutch. Help with translations would be much, much appreciated: a file containing all the Set's strings is attached here, for those who would like to contribute.

For the moment, the Set will only be available here, alongside its "do not read me" documentation. Since it doesn't follow GPL, I can't really post it on the online content, and so far I don't have any webpage where it could be hosted.

I'll be mainly working on the Standard Gauge French Set from now on, but I'll keep maintaining this Set in terms of bug fixes, and possibly support for new OTTD features. I'll also try to keep up with any new cargoes FIRS might come up with in the future :p

Enjoy!


-- CHANGE LOG

5/11/2019: Version 1.1 released!
* Trains and Tracks Set: Added concept of "maximum axle weight" as a new "realistic feature" (can be disabled through a parameter)
* Tracks Set: Added a few additional track types (to add differentiation based on axle weight)
* Trains Set: Introduced "stowage factors" for freight wagons as a new "realistic feature" (can be disabled through a parameter)
* Trains Set: Added 121T fast steamer of "Chemins de Fer du Sud de la France"
* Trains Set: Split multiple generations of 030T early steamer, BB400 late diesel as separate IDs
* Trains Set: Fixed stats of some steamers (in the light of my recent work to estimate power of SG steamers)
* Trains Set: Various bug fixes (mainly removed interferences among parameters)
* Translations: Completed German translation (courtesy of MB :) )
* Updated donotreadme

The addition of a few new engine IDs makes version 1.1 savegame incompatible with version 1.0.

28/1/2019: Updated French Rails Set (fixed issue with accents)
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Post by Snail » 02 Dec 2018 05:34

A few screenshots of the rolling stock you'll find here.

We're in 1910 here:
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Some rolling stock, year 1910
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In the roaring years of local metric-gauge networks, steamers have the lion's share among rolling stock. We can distinguish "fast" engines, capable of speeds up to 55 km/h, from "powerful" engines, mainly using the Mallet system and capable of up to 500HP. There are also smaller, cheaper engines for local operations.
Electric engines, however, are making their appearance, especially around mountain lines. Both catenary and 3rd rail systems are being tested.

A few years later, around 1938:
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Some rolling stock, year 1938
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Those small, local networks are starting to suffer competition from road transportation, especially due to the popularization of private automobiles. Steam traction is slowly being replaced by diesel, a cheaper alternative that is slowly becoming more reliable and powerful: as a result, railcars are starting to become a common sight. Electrification is still being used, on mountain lines but also along some local routes previously serviced by steamers.

Moving to 1965:
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Some rolling stock, year 1965
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Many of the old railway networks had to close down, their tracks and facilities damaged during the war, and their profits hit by the continuous decline in traffic. Steam traction is long gone and diesel is used pretty much everywhere. Passenger traffic is almost exclusively exercised by railcars: the decline of freight traffic seems to be unstoppable.
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We're now in 1990:
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Some rolling stock, year 1990
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The few surviving narrow gauge networks are mostly relying on their historical rolling stock, in some cases dating back many decades. Some modern rolling stock is being introduced, helping those lines stay profitable; freight traffic is becoming an almost episodic thing.

Finally, let's move to 2015:
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Some rolling stock, year 2015
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The current situation sees metric gauge lines being operated using a narrow array of modern vehicles. In Corsica and Provence, the introduction of a new double railcar allows for speeds up to 100km/h; along the lines of Mont Blanc, new generations of electric railcars provide cheap and reliable service. Some heritage lines here and there are using vintage rolling stock for touristic trains.
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Post by Andrew350 » 02 Dec 2018 08:27

Ooh, very nice! Even the documentation is amazing, very well done! :bow:

You should absolutely put this on Bananas though; you don't need a GPL license for that, just choose "custom" and it can be whatever you want :)

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Post by Dr. B. Ching » 02 Dec 2018 09:25

Very impressive attention to detail, including the in-depth readme! One point of criticisms, though: I understand the set not being available in Toyland (and it's not the only one to do so), but why disable Tropical altogether? It wouldn't be historical, but what if I'd like to build a network in a pre-WW2 French colony, real or fictional? I don't think it's nice to take choice away from the player like that.

Please consider to enable support for the sub-tropical landscape if the parameter is set to "Basic" or "Toy mode".

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Re: French Trains Set - Narrow Gauge v1.0: Release Thread

Post by sevenfm » 02 Dec 2018 11:53

Incorrect flat truck and low sided wagon stats in toy mode. Using JGR 0.28, Nutracks + UKRS2 before this set.
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Re: French Trains Set - Narrow Gauge v1.0: Release Thread

Post by Kevo00 » 02 Dec 2018 19:49

Wow that's awesome! Now I can build my own Vicinal Empire!

Dr B Ching's comment I agree with though - it would be nice to be able to build in a 'hot' French overseas department?

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Post by Snail » 02 Dec 2018 20:22

sevenfm wrote:Incorrect flat truck and low sided wagon stats in toy mode. Using JGR 0.28, Nutracks + UKRS2 before this set.
Thanks for your report!

I tried to replicate your issue, but I'm not sure if I can reproduce it:
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low sided wagon capacity
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I'm using JGR's patch (compiled just now), then UKRS2 and NuTracks, before the French Set. No other newGRFs are active. Year is 1890 and the French Set is in Toy mode.
Both wagons appear to have the correct graphics and capacity: 20 crates of goods.

OTOH, in your screenshots I can see weird graphics for the two wagons I mentioned. Have you tried loading this set without the UKRS2 and seeing what happens?

Dr. B. Ching wrote:why disable Tropical altogether?
Ah! That's a good question.
Initially, the idea was to draw Algerian rolling stock and use it on Tropic only. However, it would involve *a lot* of work, almost like building a new set altogether. It took me multiple years to get to this point, and with the French Standard Gauge Set still on my list, I doubt this would ever happen.

I'll try to do some tests on my own, and perhaps enable the Basic and Toy modes in Tropic if there's enough demand.
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Re: French Trains Set - Narrow Gauge v1.0: Release Thread

Post by sevenfm » 02 Dec 2018 20:49

@Snail
The bug can be reproduced in the following configuration, without any additional newgrfs.
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Post by Snail » 03 Dec 2018 01:27

sevenfm wrote:@Snail
The bug can be reproduced in the following configuration, without any additional newgrfs.
Thanks! I got it now. There seems to be an interference among the different parameters of the set. :?

Please give me some time to think about a solution. In the meantime, the set will work fine without disabling the "realistic features" (basically, braking wagons).
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Post by Badger » 03 Dec 2018 09:09

Wow, impressive stuff and possibly the best "read-me" I've ever seen!
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Post by sevenfm » 03 Dec 2018 20:17

@Snail what do you think about adding horse trains from 1827, so later these lines could be upgraded to narrow gauge trains?

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Post by Snail » 10 Dec 2018 05:34

sevenfm wrote:@Snail what do you think about adding horse trains from 1827, so later these lines could be upgraded to narrow gauge trains?
Not sure about that. I think horse-driven trains might be better coded as trams, as part of road vehicle sets. When I did research on those metric gauge secondary lines, I found that none that started with horse traction: they all employed steam (or electric) power since the beginning.

In any case, I consider this set "complete", i.e. I'm not planning to develop this set any further (apart from bug fixes and support for future FIRS cargoes). I've already started work on the SG set. :p
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Post by acs121 » 10 Dec 2018 18:15

The first railway line in France, in 1827, was standard-gauge anyways, although if ever someone wanted to see horses, he could use Early Rail Set or create a GRF with plateways and wagonways.

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Re: French Trains Set - Narrow Gauge v1.0: Release Thread

Post by Kevo00 » 14 Jan 2019 23:28

Love this set! But I have found a potential issue (though it may be my own incompetence). The starting (1882) mail van gives a capacity of 25 mail bags in the purchase menu, but only seems to give a capacity of 16 when actually built with the 120T. But maybe this is a design feature?

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Post by Snail » 15 Jan 2019 03:30

Kevo00 wrote:Love this set! But I have found a potential issue (though it may be my own incompetence). The starting (1882) mail van gives a capacity of 25 mail bags in the purchase menu, but only seems to give a capacity of 16 when actually built with the 120T. But maybe this is a design feature?
Yes, it's a design feature. The purchase list menu gives the capacity of a generic (usually the most widespread) type of wagon, but when you attach it to a consist, it's going to get the locomotive's livery. As a result, not only the looks, but also capacity, weight and length might change.

In the case of the Réseau Breton, for instance (one of the 120T's possible liveries), the mail wagon becomes this one:

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It's shorter and less capable than your average main van (in reality it was only 6 meters long), but it can travel up to 55 km/h to keep up with the locomotive.
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Post by Kevo00 » 15 Jan 2019 11:45

Ah! I thought this might be what was happening, but I wasn't sure. Clever feature.

I've found that in Reseau Breton livery the bogie coaches can carry 1st/2nd class passengers too. But not in the default. Looking forward to finding more hidden features!

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Re: French Trains Set - Narrow Gauge v1.0: Release Thread

Post by goremaniac » 18 Jan 2019 14:55

Wow, superb effort and awesome readme. :)

Just one question, not 32bpp graphics ? The set would look even more amazing.

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