[OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

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[OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

Post by Leanden » 25 Aug 2017 07:54

Welcome to BRTracks

BRTracks is a Rail Replacement Set based on British Railways, designed to used in conjunction with BRTrains.

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Planned 16 Railtypes:

SAAN - Urban Line Rail (75mph)
SBAN - Branch Line Rail (100mph)
RAIL - Main Line Rail (125mph)
SAA3 - Urban Line 3rd Rail (75mph)
SBA3 - Branch Line 3rd Rail (100mph)
SAAE - Urban Line OHLE Rail (75mph)
SBAE - Branch Line OHLE Rail (100mph)
SCAE - Main Line OHLE Rail (125mph)
SDAE - High Speed OHLE Rail (143mph)
ELRL - High Speed OHLE Rail (186mph)
SAAZ - Urban Line Dual Rail (75mph)
SBAZ - Branch Line Dual Rail (100mph)
SCAZ - Main Line Dual Rail (125mph)
SAA4 - Underground 4th Rail (70mph)
NRAN - Narrow Gauge Rack Rail (20mph)
MGLV - Low Speed Maglev Rail (30mph)
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Re: [OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

Post by andythenorth » 25 Aug 2017 08:12

Dual tracks, don't work, can't remember exactly why. :roll:

IIRC it's the way compatibility is implemented in railtypes spec. :twisted: Same issue crops up for other train sets (reported by george in Flyspray), and for NotRoadTypes. https://bugs.openttd.org/task/5006
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Re: [OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

Post by michael blunck » 25 Aug 2017 08:46

You should really use the Standardized Railtype Scheme, no need to invent even more exotic railtype labels:

RLOW - Urban Line Rail (75mph) -> SUAN (non electrified)
RMED - Branch Line Rail (100mph) -> SBAN
RHIG - Main Line Rail (125mph) -> SCAN

3LOW - Urban Line 3rd Rail (75mph) -> SUA3 (electrified)
3MED - Branch Line 3rd Rail (100mph) -> SBA3

ELOW - Urban Line OHLE Rail (75mph) -> SUAE (electrified)
EMED - Branch Line OHLE Rail (100mph) -> SBAE
EHIG - Main Line OHLE Rail (125mph) -> SCAE

HSTR - High Speed Rail (143mph) -> SDAN (non electrified)
HST1 - High Speed Rail (186mph) -> SEAN

MTRO - Underground 4th Rail (70mph) -> SSA4
NRAN - Narrow Gauge Rack Rail (20mph)
MGLV - Low Speed Maglev Rail (30mph)

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Re: [OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

Post by Leanden » 25 Aug 2017 10:04

They arent exotic, they are the same 4 character codes used by both Nutracks and Japanese Rails.

https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/RailtypeLabels

Dual tracks work fine in NuTracks, i think its more of a train construction issue if you set it to use both by default.
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Re: [OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

Post by michael blunck » 25 Aug 2017 10:13

Leanden wrote: [railtype labels]
They arent exotic, they are the same 4 character codes used by both Nutracks and Japanese Rails.
Yeah. Those ARE exotic.
That list is heavily outdated.


Did you even read FooBar´s article?

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Re: [OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

Post by andythenorth » 25 Aug 2017 10:24

Leanden wrote:Dual tracks work fine in NuTracks, i think its more of a train construction issue if you set it to use both by default.
Which NuTracks version and which train newgrf did you test with? I want to have a look, might influence some questions about spec, cheers. ;)

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Re: [OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

Post by Leanden » 25 Aug 2017 13:41

BRTrains, the 395 is Dual Voltage, i couldnt pin point a psrticular version of nutracks tho.
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Re: [OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

Post by Leanden » 25 Aug 2017 13:54

Sorry indeed, dual voltage :)
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Re: [OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

Post by oberhümer » 26 Aug 2017 11:40

Leanden wrote:They arent exotic, they are the same 4 character codes used by both Nutracks and Japanese Rails.
NuTracks doesn't use them anymore, and they should really be removed from that page. I would do it, but can't get into the TT Wiki right now.
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Re: [OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

Post by michael blunck » 26 Aug 2017 12:25

oberhümer wrote: NuTracks doesn't use them anymore, and they should really be removed from that page. I would do it, but can't get into the TT Wiki right now.
Same here.

DBRails does use labels from the Standardized Railtype Scheme, and those outdated labels should really be removed from that page. I would do it, but can't get into the TT Wiki as well.

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Re: [OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

Post by Leanden » 26 Aug 2017 12:37

Thats fair, ill change to the standard type then.

Im debating whether instead of speed, i should use RA numbers.

Or perhaps both as a parameter.
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Re: [OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

Post by Leanden » 26 Aug 2017 12:44

First post updated.
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Re: [OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

Post by Leanden » 31 Aug 2017 19:32

So the set is planned to have 6 different modes as below, BRTrains will be compatible with all of these modes as well.
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Ive also been testing several types of ballast:
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Ballast type 4 won a closed vote, but others will be included for other purposes.
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Re: [OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

Post by Doorslammer » 01 Sep 2017 08:01

Was gonna say ballast number 4 looks the business. :))
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Re: [OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

Post by Morgs » 01 Sep 2017 23:13

Forgive me for asking this but how does this proposed GRF differ to UK finescale tracks GRF?
Speaking of UK Finescale Tracks GRF, I get dual voltage tracks between 1910 and 1920 when I use the GRF with UKRS2

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Re: [OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

Post by Gwyd » 02 Sep 2017 05:47

Did UK finescale ever plan to add 4th rail, obscure voltages (such as 6.5kv DC), other gauges, high speed track... And actually try to use 16 track types. I'm not complaining about UKFS: it always had a different aim to BRTracks so this is to be expected

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Re: [OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

Post by Leanden » 02 Sep 2017 10:56

Indeed, BRTracks will have a much greater variety of railtypes available, and BRTrains will be set up to utilise these additional track types.

In the default historic setting there will be your usual Standard, 3rd Rail, 25kV OHLE and Dual Voltage rails, but there will also be Broad Gauge, Dual Gauge, Narrow Gauge, Narrow Gauge with Rack, 6.25kV OHLE, 1500V DC OHLE, 4th Rail, Bottom Contact Third Rail, 600V Third Rail and finally British Maglev track.
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Re: [OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

Post by Leanden » 05 Sep 2017 18:54

Started drawing up new signals as planned below.

(Not final version)
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Re: [OTTD] BRTracks - Development Thread

Post by Leanden » 09 Sep 2017 06:39

Released v0.0.1 on Bananas

A very simply NewGRF to showcase the graphics.
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