xUSSR Set [WIP]

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Re: xUSSR Set [WIP]

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Simozzz wrote: By the way, there were a lot of locomotives imported from US prior cold war. Especially from Baldwin and ALCo. Maybe you can find something?
There´s an abundance of photos and info, at least about american-built locomotives for the Trans-Sib, both on the internet and in books.

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Re: xUSSR Set [WIP]

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There´s an abundance of photos and info, at least about american-built locomotives for the Trans-Sib, both on the internet and in books.
Most of them you can find where our tracking table is. But all of them in Russian. And our search potencial ends when it comes to search in other languages. If you have any links or photos, could you share them?
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Re: xUSSR Set [WIP]

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I Would love to see a good set of early Russian trains , very surprised no one has taken the project on .Plenty of info on the net https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _of_Russia .

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Re: xUSSR Set [WIP]

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piratescooby wrote:I Would love to see a good set of early Russian trains , very surprised no one has taken the project on .Plenty of info on the net https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _of_Russia .
Though the issue right now is that there isn't much rolling stock before 1928 to cover all cargos early game.

Though I did find a old locomotive with some decent information, should have enough information to work with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_l ... ss_Izhitsa (sorry if its already included but I couldn't find it in any lists for the xUSSR set)
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Re: xUSSR Set [WIP]

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Yep, it is in our tracking table. Like most of rolling stock you can find at wikipedia.
For 0.5 version goal is to have wagons for every cargo from standart industries, ECS, FIRS and AuzInd and locomotives for every type of rails aviable from 1950 onwards.
1920 planned for 0.6 and earlier for later versions.
At this moment, not even half of planned rolling stock made. And since I'm last graphics contributor of this set it'll take some time to add something new.
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Re: xUSSR Set [WIP]

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Simozzz wrote:Yep, it is in our tracking table. Like most of rolling stock you can find at wikipedia.
For 0.5 version goal is to have wagons for every cargo from standart industries, ECS, FIRS and AuzInd and locomotives for every type of rails aviable from 1950 onwards.
1920 planned for 0.6 and earlier for later versions.
At this moment, not even half of planned rolling stock made. And since I'm last graphics contributor of this set it'll take some time to add something new.
I wish you luck and success in implementation of all the projects that you want to add to this set :)) .
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Re: xUSSR Set [WIP]

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xUSSR Railway set v0.5 available for download in the online content game, in the site xUSSR set-0.5 and on bananas xUSSR_Railway_set-0.5 :)) All enjoy the game :D

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Re: xUSSR Set [WIP]

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Hello, I've noticed there is no mail wagon later years (around 2010+), its supposed to be like that? Other than that, I'm really enjoying playing with this set, one of top 3 for sure!

The refrigerator wagon around 2000-2010 sometimes got no wagons for 2-3 years until the next one is available, maybe change a little the expiration or introduced year?

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nihues wrote:Hello, I've noticed there is no mail wagon later years (around 2010+), its supposed to be like that? Other than that, I'm really enjoying playing with this set, one of top 3 for sure!

The refrigerator wagon around 2000-2010 sometimes got no wagons for 2-3 years until the next one is available, maybe change a little the expiration or introduced year?
its possible that like my issue (not much for wagons before 1928), its possible they dont have much data if any at all for later (or earlier) wagons.

If things are disappearing before 2010, perhaps the dev's of the set could extend their availability to stick around longer until some newer wagons can be coded.
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Re: xUSSR Set [WIP]

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NekoMaster wrote:
nihues wrote:Hello, I've noticed there is no mail wagon later years (around 2010+), its supposed to be like that? Other than that, I'm really enjoying playing with this set, one of top 3 for sure!

The refrigerator wagon around 2000-2010 sometimes got no wagons for 2-3 years until the next one is available, maybe change a little the expiration or introduced year?
its possible that like my issue (not much for wagons before 1928), its possible they dont have much data if any at all for later (or earlier) wagons.

If things are disappearing before 2010, perhaps the dev's of the set could extend their availability to stick around longer until some newer wagons can be coded.
I agree with NekoMaster. Through the necessary settings to make available the entire list of transport. I usually do :D . In the future there will be a wide variety of wagonss for transportation of different goods. I suggest you to wait for the new wagons :wink: .
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Re: xUSSR Set [WIP]

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currently released version (0.5) doesn't support some cargoes from new FIRS.
Maybe you should just allow cargo classes, instead of explicit define of cargo labels?
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McZapkie wrote:currently released version (0.5) doesn't support some cargoes from new FIRS.
Maybe you should just allow cargo classes, instead of explicit define of cargo labels?
1) no, we shall not use classes
2) WIP on FIRS3 support. Test the latest nightly build. Not 100% compatible with previous savegames, wagons should be rebuild. Full support planned in 0.6
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Re: xUSSR Set [WIP]

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I was playing with the xUSSR set the other day with a Russian scenario I had, and I noticed that before 1930 there is nothing that carries mail.

Was there no mail service on the railways before 1930 or you guys just dont have the data/graphics for a mail car before 1930? Perhaps the luggage cars that come out before then can be used for hauling small amounts of mail (simply just bags of mail tossed into a empty car). Would probably make loading mail slow.
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Re: xUSSR Set [WIP]

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NekoMaster wrote:I was playing with the xUSSR set the other day with a Russian scenario I had, and I noticed that before 1930 there is nothing that carries mail.

Was there no mail service on the railways before 1930 or you guys just dont have the data/graphics for a mail car before 1930? .
They are not drawn yet. Also, as you have noted, there isn't much data about early wagons.
Perhaps the luggage cars that come out before then can be used for hauling small amounts of mail (simply just bags of mail tossed into a empty car). Would probably make loading mail slow.
We've disscused that, but decided not to add it right now, as that will make normal mail cars useless (as they have less volume and carry weight).
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Re: xUSSR Set [WIP]

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It's been a while since last post.
We've missed our release date this time, but all of us were busy last year. But now, when my graduation comming closer, I have more free time.

Also, some progress have been made. Added new early and modern vehicles, redrawn boxcars and new method of drawing freight wagon's cargoes implemented.

If you are playing with our set, please, download latest version and give us feedback! More feedback - better!
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Re: xUSSR Set [WIP]

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nice it would be great if you could add more paint schemes for some of the more modern emu like the ED4M and EP2D like the Moscow region livery

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Re: xUSSR Set [WIP]

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Some kind of bugreport:
  1. Load this set and, for example, Dutch trains/tracks.
  2. German trains cannot access to xUSSR rails. It's good.
  3. However, in Soviet Russia trains don't care about gauge width and use German (Japanese, American, etc) rails as well. It's not good, I think.
Now I use for gameplay dirt & ugly temporal solution:

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grfcodec -d xussr.grf
sed -i -e 's/RAIL/BAAN/g' -e 's/ELRL/BAAE/g' sprites/xussr.nfo 
grfcodec -eg 2 xussr.grf
rm -r sprites
It's works, but it's not good.
Best solution - make this behavior optional.

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Re: xUSSR Set [WIP]

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U.N.Owen wrote:Some kind of bugreport:
  1. Load this set and, for example, Dutch trains/tracks.
  2. German trains cannot access to xUSSR rails. It's good.
  3. However, in Soviet Russia trains don't care about gauge width and use German (Japanese, American, etc) rails as well. It's not good, I think.
This behavior is "as designed".
xussr set intends to use all 16 railway slots. Because of that there are two possible set usage:
a) trains use "special" railways, defined by the set
b) trains use "default" railways
In your case there is variant b) and trains behave as it is intended.
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Re: xUSSR Set [WIP]

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George wrote: xussr set intends to use all 16 railway slots.
But now we have 64 railway slots, not 16!
Therefore the statement
George wrote:there are two possible set usage
is complete wrong.
Please add a third option and don't force players to use dirty hacks (see above) for combine your set with others.

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Re: xUSSR Set [WIP]

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U.N.Owen wrote:
George wrote: xussr set intends to use all 16 railway slots.
But now we have 64 railway slots, not 16!
Therefore the statement
George wrote:there are two possible set usage
is complete wrong.
Please add a third option and don't force players to use dirty hacks (see above) for combine your set with others.
We don't have 64 slots YET, at least not in a stable release of the master branch, and it will never apply to older versions of OpenTTD, including the current patch packs.

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