New South Wales Rail Set[Testers Needed!]

jabberwalkee_ · Post by **jabberwalkee_** » 29 Oct 2004 16:38

I suspectd that it was a dual guage type system (but i diddn't want to look like too much of an ass if it was something more obvious). Now I know why the guage makes such a difference......I never realised just how different the sizes were!

coalroads artist · Post by **coalroads artist** » 01 Nov 2004 07:21

Here is some of my NSW pics.As you can see they arn't exactly reskined but do need a little touchup because of sprite restrictions were i painted them.If the group is happy with these pics I would be glad to repaint them properly with the desired sized sprites.Some of the pics i would like to change like the 48 class as they were my first locos and I have developed better skills since then.Also some faults are visible because of sprite sizes (clipped roofs) and placement (one tender for 38 and 35 ).I have more completed but just wanted give a taste of what my work is like.Also had a go at some australian scenery experimentally.Only a tileplate, a gumtree, barbwire fence and some lowerquad signals completed.

coalroads artist · Post by **coalroads artist** » 01 Nov 2004 07:28

Heres a small lineup

BobDendry · Post by **BobDendry** » 01 Nov 2004 07:47

They look pretty good. I look forward to seeing more of your work

mdhowe · Post by **mdhowe** » 01 Nov 2004 08:35

Excellent, the scenery looks very realistic except I think the grid should be a bit more brown.

I especially like that gum tree. Good work!

ThorRune · Post by **ThorRune** » 01 Nov 2004 09:24

Great, but on the middle train, the yellow lines seem to bright

jabberwalkee_ · Post by **jabberwalkee_** » 01 Nov 2004 11:48

They are a little fluro aren't they?!

ThorRune · Post by **ThorRune** » 01 Nov 2004 12:23

They stand to much out from the rest. Catch teh eye.

Villem · Post by **Villem** » 01 Nov 2004 12:46

Nice Rolling Stock

, and i love the trains too.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 01 Nov 2004 17:37

Wow looks very nice!

Raichase · Post by **Raichase** » 02 Nov 2004 10:20

ThorRune wrote:Great, but on the middle train, the yellow lines seem to bright

Thats mostly the governments fault actually

. They are a little bright, but they are pretty close to reality.

Those pictures, and the landscape looks really good!

Lightglobe · Post by **Lightglobe** » 02 Nov 2004 12:00

My only comlaint on the landscape is that tile edges shouldn't be so heavy. It just seems the grid is to pronounced(sp?).

Other than that, that some pretty nice work.

jacke · Post by **jacke** » 02 Nov 2004 12:40

Yeah, very nice

. I agree with Lightglobe though...

Flavius · Post by **Flavius** » 02 Nov 2004 13:03

Hi coalroads artist

Positively like everything about your posts. From the locos through to the backgrounds that appear like grain areas in central NSW. Is that a eucalypt in one of the pics

We are reallygetting somewhere.

Flavius · Post by **Flavius** » 02 Nov 2004 13:18

Hi ttdx_artist

Without any doubt, the steam engines are the hardest to draw. For mine the USA sets Big Boy and AC6 graphics , are the yardstick. Particularly the former.

Personally i think your graphic for the Beyer Garrett provides a starting point, it is really a basic outlline. The detail will be hard to do.

Seems like the Beyer Garrett is a normal locomotive in the middle with power wheels under the water tanker and coal truck. Appears there are no power wheels under the central locomotive, must have been shafts going forward and aft to the powered vehicles.

krtaylor · Post by **krtaylor** » 02 Nov 2004 14:09

Have you seen the Garratt in the Tropicset?

ttdx_artist · Post by **ttdx_artist** » 02 Nov 2004 16:01

yeh, the garratt was like 2 locomtotives with 1 boiler, i must admit, you saying that the garratt had a shaft between the drivers is one of the funniest things i've read for ages, i was on the floor in histerics... anyway,
Coalroads: The 38 and 35 needs a longer front platform, the nose sticks out to far, the CPH looks great, the 48 has a slightmix-up with the walkway at the front... it needs to keep in line. the aurora cars are good, but the corners look too round, thats an easy 2min shading fix tho...maybe change the colour of the cream lines on the RUB set, by changing the colour to something less bold, it makes the line look thinner

, same deal with the yellow "whiskers" on the 44, i already have a SAR 930 on a previous page, so you can repaint that if you want, or just extend your loco to the same dimentions. Other than that... scenery looks great!!! And yes, i have seen the garratt from the tropic set, that topic was mention a few pages ago... and the garratt doesn't need to much detail, because if you draw pipes in TTD, they woould look about a metre wide, but i'll fiddle with colours... so far thats the only feed back on it tho... so until i hear more....I WILL NOT CONTINUE.... i am not spending hours drawing, and then everyone says, "No, i dont like it", so for f**ks sake guys... gimme feedback, or i'll just stop drawing!!!

Flavius · Post by **Flavius** » 02 Nov 2004 17:26

There are no drive wheels under Garrett locomotive, This link shows what i mean.
http://www.ngltc.org/trains-tl.html

Kind of think this pic is ideal for painting a graphic for Beyer Garrett.

Purno · Post by **Purno** » 02 Nov 2004 18:20

ttdx_artist (in PM) wrote:you say that you prefer to draw passenger than freight...?perfect...i'll do you a deal... i need passenger sets done for various australian express trains... and you need ppl to draw the cargo-set...are you catching on? got to the ausset forum to view my stuff that i have posted... and then tell me if you want in.

Although I rejected this offer before, IIRC, I changed my mind. It's not that I actually make a deal (passenger trains <--> freight carriages), but I might want to help.

I didn't have the 'time' to read the whole thread but I saw some good 'screenies' (are they real?). Does this set already have a coder?

Anyways, give me a picture of a train you want drawn and when I find some time I might be able to draw it.

coalroads artist · Post by **coalroads artist** » 03 Nov 2004 03:12

Thanks for the input :) .TTDX_artist:I will try changing the features you reconmended but i don't know about the colours.I will try and compromise but want to represent the liveries as realistic as possible , i do admit the yellow is a bit bright on the reverse livered 48s but not too severe on the 44.Good point though with making lines look smalller with paler colours.I have found it is hard to get the right colour look when some colours hue changes when painted together.I will put some actual sprites up once i've finished modifying them, the 48s a going to get a changed signifigantly.I'll put the 38 sprites up first so you can compare them with your 38 once i've changed mine.I have just read about the different res you had on the Auset pic.Dose the XPT have a candy livery, because i was painting such with your XPT sprites, also doing countrylink livery but changing a few details as it looks bland with countrylink scheme.Also if any request is made for any sprite pics, i may be a bit slow producing them as i only have net acess through local libary and need to bring files with me before getting the chance to read the forum.

In regard to narrow guage i think it is a great idea espiecally for an Australian set , it will make our set appealing if it replaces mono/mag.We still need some futuristic units (TGV speed QR tilt train and some high hp/fuelcell locos even for narrow guage).I think the best option would be standard, daulguage electric and narrow as NSW has some good distances covered by eletric lines (short north,Lithgow/blue mt crossing/Illawarra wich all conveyed good amounts of frieght before 85/86s were sadly withdrawn) justifying the need for both standard and narrow guage electric.I experimented with some narrow gauge pics last night found it is possible to create good looking daulguage and narrow looking lines from the 3d view.

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