Am I permabanned from IRC?

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Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by SimYouLater » 07 May 2019 00:20

I would have thought a temporary ban would be over by now.
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Please ask someone in-the-know to be sure that the graphics are done by me. Especially TTD-Scale, long story.

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Re: Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by acs121 » 07 May 2019 12:24

Were you even banned from IRC ? I think someone would've said it by now.

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Re: Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by orudge » 07 May 2019 12:40

To what IRC channel do you refer? Since you posted in Off-Topic, I'd assume #tycoon, but #tycoon has been pretty much dead for a good few years now. :cry:

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Re: Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by SimYouLater » 08 May 2019 04:56

orudge wrote:To what IRC channel do you refer? Since you posted in Off-Topic, I'd assume #tycoon, but #tycoon has been pretty much dead for a good few years now. :cry:
The OpenTTD channel.
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You automatically have my permission to re-license graphics or code by me if needed for use in any project that is not GPL v2, on the condition that if you release any derivatives of my graphics they're automatically considered as ALSO GPL v2 (code may remain unreleased, but please do provide it) and carry this provision in GPL v2 uses.
Please ask someone in-the-know to be sure that the graphics are done by me. Especially TTD-Scale, long story.

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Re: Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by Redirect Left » 08 May 2019 15:41

Given how dumb easy it is to evade bans on IRC (trust me, I have lots of experience) i wouldn't worry. No bans on IRC are permanent for this reason, no matter how much the channel owners may imagine it being.

Oh, and IRC is barely used anymore. Probably time to switch to Discord or Telegram.
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Re: Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by orudge » 08 May 2019 17:25

Redirect Left wrote:Oh, and IRC is barely used anymore. Probably time to switch to Discord or Telegram.
It’s still quite heavily used by open source and free software projects. IRC has the advantage of being a simple, cross-platform open protocol, rather than a closed commercial system such as Slack.

That said, I’ve removed the TT-Forums chat page on the new version of the site due to launch soon, as #tycoon has been dead for years.

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Re: Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by lobster » 08 May 2019 17:47

Still sad about that. Had a quick check but yeah http://ircstats.ttdpatch.net/ is gone too.

For those that are desperate to at least relive some of the glory, the QDB is still a fun read.

And hey, perhaps a #Tycoon Discord could be set up at some point. I know I'd be there.
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Re: Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by orudge » 08 May 2019 19:00

The IRC channel is still there, and there are still people on it, but nobody speaks on it any more.

10+ years ago though I spent most of my day at my computer. Nowadays I spend most of my day at my employer’s computer, and most of the rest of my time not on a computer!

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Re: Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by SimYouLater » 08 May 2019 20:53

So I was never banned? Alright, then can someone please explain to me what's wrong with #OpenTTD...

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Licenses for my work...
You automatically have my permission to re-license graphics or code by me if needed for use in any project that is not GPL v2, on the condition that if you release any derivatives of my graphics they're automatically considered as ALSO GPL v2 (code may remain unreleased, but please do provide it) and carry this provision in GPL v2 uses.
Please ask someone in-the-know to be sure that the graphics are done by me. Especially TTD-Scale, long story.

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Re: Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by Redirect Left » 08 May 2019 22:56

+b is the code for banned, so you are.

I've coinnected there myself, and there is only one thing on their list of banned users, and your username doesn't appear there.

Is this your hostname? (if you don't know, next time you connect, type /whois YOURNAMEHERE and it'll tell you your ident and hostname, it'll be formatted as IDENT@HOSTNAME)
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Good news everyone. I'm still banned from #tycoon (although the fact i got in shows these didn't work, yay for IRC banning methods)
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Re: Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by orudge » 08 May 2019 23:02

You’d be quite welcome in #tycoon these days - to be honest, I can’t even remember why you were banned now anyway!

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Re: Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by Redirect Left » 08 May 2019 23:05

orudge wrote:You’d be quite welcome in #tycoon these days - to be honest, I can’t even remember why you were banned now anyway!
For being my usual 2008-2010 self i suggest, i got those awards for good reason. Impressively I had already been banned by the 2010 awards, so the memory lived on a bit :lol:
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Re: Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by SimYouLater » 08 May 2019 23:27

Redirect Left wrote:+b is the code for banned, so you are.

I've coinnected there myself, and there is only one thing on their list of banned users, and your username doesn't appear there.

Is this your hostname? (if you don't know, next time you connect, type /whois YOURNAMEHERE and it'll tell you your ident and hostname, it'll be formatted as IDENT@HOSTNAME)
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Good news everyone. I'm still banned from #tycoon (although the fact i got in shows these didn't work, yay for IRC banning methods)
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Yeah, that's my hostname. I recognize the ISP.

How long am I banned for?
Licenses for my work...
You automatically have my permission to re-license graphics or code by me if needed for use in any project that is not GPL v2, on the condition that if you release any derivatives of my graphics they're automatically considered as ALSO GPL v2 (code may remain unreleased, but please do provide it) and carry this provision in GPL v2 uses.
Please ask someone in-the-know to be sure that the graphics are done by me. Especially TTD-Scale, long story.

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Re: Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by Redirect Left » 08 May 2019 23:42

I can't answer that much, however IRC bans do not automatically expire. So it is up to them to remove it when they feel its done. However given you are the only person banned, either you managed to be super annoying than ever has happened, or they recently removed the bans, showing they do remove them periodically.
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Re: Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by SimYouLater » 09 May 2019 00:21

Redirect Left wrote:I can't answer that much, however IRC bans do not automatically expire. So it is up to them to remove it when they feel its done. However given you are the only person banned, either you managed to be super annoying than ever has happened, or they recently removed the bans, showing they do remove them periodically.
In 2017, I posted a topic that people didn't like. Since I was half-crazy and annoying due to my fear of using various words (like I said, half-crazy), I had the topic locked and ignored the subject for a couple years.

Earlier this year, I asked #OpenTTD if it would be okay to revive the subject. They said sure, it seemed okay. So I did. Cue Pikkabird telling me that he's had multiple complaints from people wanting the new topic locked. Cue me raging at #OpenTTD. Cue a kick with a request to come back when I'm calm.

So I come back a few minutes later, completely calm (yes, really) and ask why nobody told me it was not okay to revive the topic. They ask me to say sorry. I calmly decline and leave.

A few hours later, I return to find myself banned.
Licenses for my work...
You automatically have my permission to re-license graphics or code by me if needed for use in any project that is not GPL v2, on the condition that if you release any derivatives of my graphics they're automatically considered as ALSO GPL v2 (code may remain unreleased, but please do provide it) and carry this provision in GPL v2 uses.
Please ask someone in-the-know to be sure that the graphics are done by me. Especially TTD-Scale, long story.

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Re: Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by Redirect Left » 09 May 2019 00:37

So, I cannot comment on that, my little bot that I had left stationed in #tycoon (yay crappy bans again) and #openttd died ages ago and i never bothered to revive it, so i don't know how much of what you said is true.

The majority of mods there are fair enough, there is one who is an absolute <insert many libellous comments here>, but the rest are fairly decent people. Assuming it wasn't the former who banned you, you can probably approach them and talk about it.

I suspect you were told it was ok to restart and then not do when people realised X or Y (I don't know what the X or Y is, due to not doing anything with GRFs), maybe disinformation or something.

If you know the person who banned you and their name, you can start your IRC client and do /query USERNAME YOURMESSAGEHERE - you can do this without being on the channel you were banned from.
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Re: Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by SimYouLater » 09 May 2019 00:39

Redirect Left wrote:So, I cannot comment on that, my little bot that I had left stationed in #tycoon (yay crappy bans again) and #openttd died ages ago and i never bothered to revive it, so i don't know how much of what you said is true.

The majority of mods there are fair enough, there is one who is an absolute <insert many libellous comments here>, but the rest are fairly decent people. Assuming it wasn't the former who banned you, you can probably approach them and talk about it.

I suspect you were told it was ok to restart and then not do when people realised X or Y (I don't know what the X or Y is, due to not doing anything with GRFs), maybe disinformation or something.

If you know the person who banned you and their name, you can start your IRC client and do /query USERNAME YOURMESSAGEHERE - you can do this without being on the channel you were banned from.
I don't have an IRC client, and I don't want to get one. Even if I did, I don't know who banned me.
Licenses for my work...
You automatically have my permission to re-license graphics or code by me if needed for use in any project that is not GPL v2, on the condition that if you release any derivatives of my graphics they're automatically considered as ALSO GPL v2 (code may remain unreleased, but please do provide it) and carry this provision in GPL v2 uses.
Please ask someone in-the-know to be sure that the graphics are done by me. Especially TTD-Scale, long story.

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Re: Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by Redirect Left » 09 May 2019 00:44

You should also be able to do it from any online based clients, although if you intend to use IRC long term, downloading a local client is a much better option.
From the ban, it looks like it was credited to 'glx'. Although they are currently not operator in that channel, so either a temporary assignment or they currently haven't requested it from whatever system it is.
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Re: Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by SimYouLater » 09 May 2019 00:48

Redirect Left wrote:You should also be able to do it from any online based clients, although if you intend to use IRC long term, downloading a local client is a much better option.
From the ban, it looks like it was credited to 'glx'. Although they are currently not operator in that channel, so either a temporary assignment or they currently haven't requested it from whatever system it is.
glx? Is that a mod or the service provider?
Licenses for my work...
You automatically have my permission to re-license graphics or code by me if needed for use in any project that is not GPL v2, on the condition that if you release any derivatives of my graphics they're automatically considered as ALSO GPL v2 (code may remain unreleased, but please do provide it) and carry this provision in GPL v2 uses.
Please ask someone in-the-know to be sure that the graphics are done by me. Especially TTD-Scale, long story.

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Re: Am I permabanned from IRC?

Post by Redirect Left » 09 May 2019 00:52

The fiirst set of details is the banned person, the second one is the person who placed the ban. (Unless OFTC uses an IRCd that does something odd, but I really doubt it)
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