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noob question about long bridges :\

Posted: 14 Apr 2024 00:16
by Tkar
I used to play a lot openttd, but i forgot about the game :roll: Which is a shame, because it's one of my all-time favorites... now there are a few things that i cannot remember anymore.

For example, i have started a new game and now i'm in 1987 and i cannot build long train bridges beyond their maximum lenght. Only the suspension Steel Golden Bridge is available.

I have 7 grf installed and my game version is 12.1. My max. bridge size is set to 4.096.

I already installed the patch but it didn't work.

After reading some answers in the forum, i know you gonna say about the bridges speed limit, but i like them nonetheless. Besides, i'm building slowly and i only have so far 7 million available. :mrgreen:

How can i build long steel cantilever bridges? :oops: Thanks.

Re: noob question about long bridges :\

Posted: 14 Apr 2024 00:39
by kamnet
"i cannot build long train bridges beyond their maximum length... My max bridge size is set to 4.096."

Yes, that is a hard-set maximum limit. But, why do you need bridges spanning the entire map? That's beyond excessive.

Re: noob question about long bridges :\

Posted: 14 Apr 2024 00:58
by Tkar
I don't.

Thing is, a 68 size bridge over a body of water, for example, only allows me steel bridges at 112km\h or wood bridges. The steel Red Bridge is limited to the normal max. size of 11.

i just can't figure it out the definition to build this type of long bridges, because i clearly remember it was possible to do so.

Re: noob question about long bridges :\

Posted: 14 Apr 2024 01:35
by kamnet
Okay, so despite setting a long length in the game settings, it's still not building longer bridges?

Open your openttd.cfg file, and confirm the value for the setting max_bridge_length

Re: noob question about long bridges :\

Posted: 14 Apr 2024 08:21
by odisseus
Most types of bridges have a minimum and maximum allowed length. For example, the red steel bridge can be between 5 and 11 tiles long. These limits cannot be changed in the settings, but there are add-ons that provide bridges with different length limits.

Re: noob question about long bridges :\

Posted: 14 Apr 2024 10:58
by kamnet
odisseus wrote: 14 Apr 2024 08:21 Most types of bridges have a minimum and maximum allowed length. For example, the red steel bridge can be between 5 and 11 tiles long. These limits cannot be changed in the settings, but there are add-ons that provide bridges with different length limits.
This doesn't seem factual for default bridges. After setting the max bridge length to 500, I was able to build the red steel bridge to 500 tiles long. So I'm not sure what issue is being encountered here.

Re: noob question about long bridges :\

Posted: 14 Apr 2024 12:52
by Tkar
Here's what i did: changed the max lenght to 500. No impact in the current game. Then i created a new game to start in 2020 and i'm able to create tubular, steel and wood bridges beyond their max size, both on sea and land. However, the 3 cantilever bridges are nowhere to been seen, except if i try to build on until their maximum size limits. No cantilever bridge is available at size 12. This is very strange. ?(

Maybe something to do with any of the grf?

Re: noob question about long bridges :\

Posted: 14 Apr 2024 15:03
by odisseus
kamnet wrote: 14 Apr 2024 10:58 This doesn't seem factual for default bridges. After setting the max bridge length to 500, I was able to build the red steel bridge to 500 tiles long. So I'm not sure what issue is being encountered here.
Are you sure you don't have any add-ons?

For what it's worth, the Wiki says that each type of bridge (even the wooden bridge) has its own minimum and maximum length.

The source code seems to confirm this, even though some values from the Wiki are incorrect.

Re: noob question about long bridges :\

Posted: 14 Apr 2024 19:02
by kamnet
Tkar wrote: 14 Apr 2024 12:52 Maybe something to do with any of the grf?
What NewGRF are you using that affects bridges?

Re: noob question about long bridges :\

Posted: 14 Apr 2024 19:14
by Tkar
No idea.

I'm creating new games with all my grf deactivated. The same thing happens. Have all bridges available for longer lengths except the 3 cantilevers.

Re: noob question about long bridges :\

Posted: 15 Apr 2024 00:48
by kamnet
AH! Okay, I've misunderstood what's going on, because I missed the last line in the very first post that you were specifically talking about the cantilever bridges.

*sighs* I'm sorry.

Yes, the Cantilever bridges have a restricted length of between 5 and 12 tiles, that's by design. You will need to use a NewGRF bridge set such as Total Bridge Renewal Set, U&Bridges or JP+ Bridges to get cantilever bridges of longer lengths.